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Becoming skeptical about blackhat now non of my software is having much effect...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    So what's a playa to do?

    Some whitehat do gooder forecast doom for BH techniques (tho not in so many words) saying that they think G is gonna move more and more away from offpage SEO and more towards onpage. They said 'Matt Cutts as good as says it'.

    Usually I'd write this off as typical warriorforum garbage (which is where it came from) however my recent results or lack thereof seem to have been saying a similar story.

    I haven't been around long enough to know if the BH scene will pull through with some new softwarez/skillz to circumvent new algorithms so perhaps others might give me a better idea on that.

    The thing I love about BH is I don't have to brown nose with other jackoffs praying on their good will to give me guest posts etc. BH lies solely in my hands and the time I put in, though sadly not now it seems.

    I've been clocking 12 hours per day and only seeing worse serp results. Now previously I'd put this down to user error since I was sitll leanring the tools but I feel I know enough about them now that my lack of results can't be put down to this.

    So those who've been around longer what is forecast for the future?

    I'm a bit perplexed as to what to do now as all my good spam programs have been rendered pretty obsolete- AMR and SB- RIP. (SB still being good as a checking machine etc. but severely debilitated as a linkjuicer)
     
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  2. joaquin112

    joaquin112 Regular Member

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    You're probably seeing the Google dance or maybe you're doing something wrong and spamming your sites too much. I just see my rankings go up and up...
     
  3. talkmeow

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    I would have to agree.
    I've been throwing all kinds of links at my sites lately and they haven't budged much at all. It is very frustrating.
     
  4. klawre1221

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    If you are using tools to send crappy spun articles to auto approve article directories that does not work anymore.
    Using a tool to make to make profile links that all have the same profile name and no pic and no bio or the exact same one on every profile does not work anymore.
    If you use a tool to comment on auto approve blogs that already have a 1000 OBLs on them that also does not work.
    I get best results with semi-automatic seo. Make sure each link you build is unique and looks like a human did it. You can use tools for some of the work but the days of turning on a tool and it getting you good high quality links are over.
     
  5. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Check on pretty much all the above.

    It's not that I dislike work, far from it, I just dislike the idea of this manual whitehat linkbuilding.

    I love computers and techy stuff and found it most fun learning the programs and watching them run, like a computer game.

    Maybe I should just be a programmer tho that might be a bit TOO techy for my tastes :D.
     
  6. jrbobdobbs

    jrbobdobbs Junior Member

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    Links produced by automated tools are always going to depreciate in value. You just have to find creative ways to use them that also involves manually created quality links. I had a similar feeling to you a while back but now I see my slow steady approach paying off. Think months, not days.
     
  7. screwebay

    screwebay Registered Member

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    And some say sex(BH) is over-rated...but they just ain't doing it right!

    BH works, BH will always work...we will MAKE IT WORK!
     
  8. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    That is a nice pep talk champ but how about a rational explanation of how you make it work :D?
     
  9. tony23

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    Patience young Jedi, nothing has changed, Google is STILL a link based algo.
    Put your tools away and try outsourcing your linkbuilding with different methods and providers.

    Hope your not trying to rank for 'home loans' ...
     
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  10. ezine

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    Make natural BL. U can schedule and drip + make ur BL indexed.
    Posted via Mobile Device
     
  11. scraper1

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    Is this International Skepticism Day? I'm seeing a lot of posts like this..."my soft is not working", "things are harder now then several years ago", "I have to work a lot harder"., "Panda this, Panda that".
     
  12. talkmeow

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    Just a few months ago I could do a SB blast or social bookmark blast and a site would jump a few spots the very next day. Now I blast it and it doesn't move at all. :(
     
  13. DamageX

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    It's not the doing itself that's wrong, it's the strategy.
     
  14. Jabong82

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    No BH is still alive and well. You probably aren't doin it right.

    This is the forumula for success right here.

    Good Keyword Research + Unique Content + Lots of Backlinks = $$$

    I think too many BHers put too much emphasis on linkbuilding and neglecting their keyword research and constantly adding content.

    But to answer your question, um no BH is still doin fine.

    What tools are you using anyway?
     
  15. goinviral

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    Variation sees to now be the word on everyone's lips.. me included. Buy some .edu backlinks from bigbuddy. Throw some linkpushes at your inner pages. Getting different links seems to be the key. Also linking deeper into your site with Web 2.0s is helping me alot at the moment.
     
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    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Ah thanks, indiaphile recommended me bigbuddy but had forgotten the name.
     
  17. marco1_79

    marco1_79 Registered Member

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    It's not possible to pretend to rank with some thousands of backlink from comments on spammed blogs. This doesn't work in 2011.
    Try to get some backlinks with higher quality.
     
  18. Simas9

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    Blasting spammy links is not an option. Try this:
    1) High PR (4+) blog commenting done manually.
    2) ezarticlelink.com (Mr. John explained it quite briefly here)
    3) Also, I think it is not a coincidence that I usually get higher in SERPS just hours after uploading a brand new & unique article to my site.
    4) Add embed youtube videos with your keyword in title/description/name. It is hard to find those so I usually upload them to yt myself.
    5) Link exchanges with authority sites in your niche...it`s really old fashioned but probably the most effective way to kill your competition.
    6) Do something to help SE`s index your backlinks like linklicious.me
     
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  19. jb2008

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    Yeah, I agree. SB - it's useful as hell but I NEVER use it for link building. What I do use it for: list comparing, dupe removing for small files, PR checking, proxy checking, malware filtering etc. And as for AMR well, I've finally used it after buying it many months ago, but delaying due to the fact that it only just got username spinnable functionality. Well, so far I have seen absolutely zero effect from the article. It was well spun not just on the word level, but each sentence was rewritten three times completely etc., titles rewritten 25 times. Out of all the 300 live links I got, one or two are showing on YSE. We'll see if there's any effect when I SB blast or guestbook blast them to juice them up. So far it is something of an anticlimax. I was expecting a considerable push from AMR. I really don't want to be creating web 2.0 properties manually and then doing shit loads of work developing each property only to have it deleted if squidoo / wordpress etc feels like it. And Xrumer, hell, out of the box is downright useless. You need to work your ass off to index those profiles, you need to make the profiles as useful a page as it can be. But of course the best way to use Xrumer is to train it yourself which can be a MIND FUCKING task if you're not from a coding background. I have done it but I am thankful I don't have to mod any other platforms in the near future. Even with all these tools I am still having to do more manual work than I imagined :( sigh
     
  20. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    Well everyone's been saying AMR's been dying for months now.

    I did squeeze some juice out of it for a tiny 170 exact keyword heh. but that's about it.

    Actually backlinks energizer I've found pretty good for indexing profile links (around 10-20 a day) too bad doing so KILLED my serps even tho one of the blasts went to one of my AMR tiers.
     
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