I joined this forum a few years ago when Black Hat tactics were at it's peak. Like usual, I tend to get involved on the downside of an up-trend. I started a few blogs and websites promoting, what I thought was a profitable niche, that was an easy "so called" target. I used several methods featured here and on other forums to get my website noticed. While, some of the methods were useful and successful, many were complete rubbish. Which; is going to make my point in this post... As many new members here & on other marketing forums tend to due. They look for the quick hitter method. Something that's so easy... "A cave man can do it". Well... As you can see; that's impossible! Free and easy isn't free, and easy and free isn't cheap. I can't begin to tell you how much research and development went into my craft. I literally spent 16 hours a day online, spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars looking for the "holy grail" system for getting traffic. I did what every "so called" expert said to do. I purchased; SEnuke, AMW, AMR, Spinner Software, BMR and tons more. While many of these programs worked to some degree, most did nothing. My point tonight is this... If hundreds, of thousands of people are doing the same thing, over and over again. Don't you think it will get saturated quickly? Don't you think the person on the other side understands that this is a short-term solution, to a long-term problem? This is what I suggest... Find "ONE" product, "ONE" niche that you ABSOLUTELY love and enjoy. Find away to promote that product, in as many ways as you possibly can. So many people here & on other forums focus their efforts on making dozens of niche websites. Finding themselves lost between up and down. "This website has no traffic" "This website gets traffic, but has no sales" "I'm getting tons of traffic, but only getting a few sales" .... GET OUT OF DODGE! Let me ask you... Who are the most profitable, most wealthiest people in the world? Are they the people who spend 15 minutes a day online? Or... Are they the people who create a brand, create a culture, create a business around something they love and enjoy? Have you ever met a real business person, that's succesful and wealthy that doesn't, eat, sleep and shit what they're doing? No... Of course not! This website is a shell of what it once was. However, there is still a ton of good content on here. You can use other peoples methods, to make your own. Blackhat, at it's core, is not what it once was. However, many of the real black-hatters will disagree, they know what I really mean. Do yourself a favor. Spend your efforts finding a niche you enjoy and love. Make a real-brand around that! TRUST ME! I did the same... I'm happy and making money at the same time!