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Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by zhmurki, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. zhmurki

    zhmurki Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    skype: crumboweb
    PayPal: dishyweb at hotmail.com

    October 21, he agreed to create dev acc for me
    ETA: within 2 days

    I paid instantly.

    Oct 27, still no acc. Come up with some excuses. I decide to give him second chance. Waited for 2 more days. Asked for accounts or money back. Now he is offline...

    This is not complete "Shit list" for a Ripper as he may deliver something today(i give him the 3rd chance), BUT i want you to know so you be careful with this time waster.

    All conversation logs a re available.


    ResellerPanel, need my money back


    P.S. I will keep updating this post, but if no deliver or money back today - he is ripper
    Logs, I removed price and my email:
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     Monday, October 20, 2014
    [2:37:09 PM] ME: hi this is zhmurki from blakhat about win dev acczs
     Tuesday, October 21, 2014
    [1:16:56 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hi how can i help you?
    [9:47:35 AM] ME: you said you have windows dev acc, i want to buy some
    [12:46:49 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Do not have windows yes, i can create them for you.
    [12:47:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Do sell iOS and Android dev accounts.
    [12:52:59 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: what type of windows dev account you looking for.
    [12:53:18 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 1. Individual or 2. Company?
    [1:10:21 PM] ME: i need both as I'm testing some ideas
    [1:10:32 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok
    [1:10:50 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Can provide you all kind of DEV accounts.
    [1:11:01 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: TAT 2 days.
    [1:12:05 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Win: 1. Individual Accounts: $price+$price 
            2. Company Account : $price+ $price
    [1:12:46 PM] ME: what's $price and what's $price in your company pricing?
    [1:13:16 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: $price Service fee, and $price is windows fee what we need to pay them
    [1:15:45 PM] ME: do you accept bitcoins?
    [1:16:06 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Not for now.
    [1:16:17 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll accept it very soon.
    [1:16:41 PM] ME: how about perfectmoney?
    [1:17:07 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i use only paypal/ Skrill/ WU for now.
    [1:18:10 PM] ME: give me you paypal and i'll try to send money today if I find an exchanger
    [1:18:55 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: dishyweb at hotmail.com
    [1:19:33 PM] ME: ok, i will send you a message as soon as I send money, you can start preparing company account
    [1:19:47 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok
    [2:36:07 PM] ME: i have sent you $price to your dishyweb at hotmail.com
    [2:36:46 PM] ME: when can I expect to have windows company developer account?
    [2:37:34 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: within 2 days, i try to deliver you by tomorrow
    [2:37:41 PM] ME: thanks
    [2:37:52 PM] ME: send it to my email
    [2:37:59 PM] ME: myemail
    [2:38:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: if you need android or iOS developer account, don?t forget to ask me
    [2:38:09 PM] ME: sure
    [2:38:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: sure, i?ll send the detail over there
    [2:38:17 PM] ME: android and iOS, too many people
    [2:38:30 PM] ME: I'm trying to explore the new horizon :)
    [2:38:38 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: good.
    [2:38:42 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: are you developer?
    [2:38:44 PM] ME: but if anything, i'll contact you
    [2:38:49 PM] ME: yes
    [2:39:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: you develop for client or yourself.
    [2:39:10 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i need one app as well.
    [2:39:43 PM] ME: right now i only develop for my self
    [2:39:52 PM] ME: in the future maybe
    [2:39:58 PM] ME: i have barely time
    [2:40:05 PM] ME: for my ideas
    [2:40:16 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok, i?m looking for an android app, if you can do or suggest someone, would be better
    [2:40:23 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll be in contact
    [2:40:36 PM] ME: i'll ask around
    [2:40:38 PM] ME: ok
    [2:40:45 PM] ME: have to get back to work
    [2:40:52 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok
    [2:40:53 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: np
    [2:40:55 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: thanks
     Thursday, October 23, 2014
    [9:36:57 AM] ME: hi, still waiting for an account
    [9:37:02 AM] ME: what's the status?
    [10:15:33 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Today is diwali festival here.
    [10:15:43 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: its like christmas to us.
    [10:15:54 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll deliver the account by tomorrow.
    [10:35:31 AM] ME: ok
    [10:35:45 AM] ME: enjoy your chrismas :)
     Friday, October 24, 2014
    [1:39:44 PM] ME: bro, still waiting for an account
    [3:23:10 PM] ME: hey
    [3:23:25 PM] ME: when will I receive an accounts
    [3:23:47 PM] ME: it's been 4 day already
     Saturday, October 25, 2014
    [3:26:15 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: hello.
     Sunday, October 26, 2014
    [12:08:43 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hello
    [1:46:18 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hello
     Monday, October 27, 2014
    [10:48:22 AM] ME: hey,
    [10:48:35 AM] ME: i still did not recevie the account
    [10:48:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes.
    [10:49:04 AM] ME: what's taking so long
    [10:49:15 AM] ME: you promised to give in 2 days
    [10:50:10 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I tried to contact windows, but i see they asking for business detail,  
    I just wanted to confirm, account will be given PERSONAL DEV ACCOUNT.  
    as soon as i get your confirmation the account will be delivered in next business day
    [10:50:57 AM] ME: you will give a personal account to me? is that right?
    [10:51:05 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes
    [10:51:14 AM] ME: i paid for a company account
    [10:51:37 AM] ME: you can't get a company?
    [10:52:20 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, but windows going so much strict about company account, i have already lost my $price by applying this.  
    this is the very first time i came across this issue.
    [10:53:07 AM] ME: bro, we agreed to one thing and now you are saying the other
    [10:53:15 AM] ME: it's not the way you do the business
    [10:54:52 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i understand, but getting fake company account no more possible, and we?ll do some research and company account will be available in few days. but for now, it is not possible.
    [10:55:22 AM] ME: in few days?
    [10:55:47 AM] ME: will you be able to deliver the company acc in few days?
    [10:56:18 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, it will take 10-15 days of research, testing etc.
    [10:57:06 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: For this order is suggest you to go with personal, you won?t get any issue.
    [10:57:49 AM] ME: ok
    [10:57:58 AM] ME: give me 5 personals instead
    [10:58:21 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 5 personal ? i don?t understand
    [10:58:45 AM] ME: yes, I paid $price for one company,
    [10:58:54 AM] ME: your pesronals are $price
    [10:59:47 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 5 personals are not possible from my end due to costing.
    [11:00:03 AM] ME: so how many is possible
    [11:00:17 AM] ME: i don't want to overpay
    [11:00:25 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: well, i?m already in loss of $price and work. by failing of windows company account
    [11:00:51 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: let me just calculate.
    [11:01:09 AM] ME: bro, it may sound rough,
    [11:01:34 AM] ME: but why should I pay for service I don't receive
    [11:01:46 AM] ME: i lost time, but I don't charge you for that
    [11:01:54 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, thats true.
    [11:02:00 AM] ME: i could get it already from another seller
    [11:03:25 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: btw. Personal Account : $price + $price (Service fee) = $price.  
    I?ll deliver 2 Personal Accounts: $pricex2= $price
    [11:03:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Rest of $price will get refunded.
    [11:05:31 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i do agree with that, and apologise again for the delay due to diwali festival.
    [11:20:15 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Are you still there bro?
    [11:28:00 AM] ME: still here
    [11:28:05 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes
    [11:28:08 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i? waiting for you.
    [11:28:32 AM] ME: how about 3
    [11:29:11 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 3 is not possible: As the cost will be 3x$69=$207.
    [11:29:27 AM] ME: ok
    [11:29:31 AM] ME: let's get 2
    [11:29:33 AM] ME: how soon
    [11:30:04 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 24 hours-48 hours max.
    [11:30:19 AM] ME: deliver the acc as soon as you get them
    [11:30:38 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: sure, please let me know your email id, so i can sent it over there, if you not available.
    [11:31:26 AM] ME: myemail
    [11:31:37 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Thank You
     Wednesday, October 29, 2014
    [10:40:38 AM] ME: hey
    [10:40:42 AM] ME: still waiting
    [10:40:47 AM] ME: how much longer
    [10:41:14 AM] ME: you said 48 hours max
    [10:41:20 AM] ME: ???
    [10:41:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?m waiting for windows approval.
    [3:18:51 PM] ME: just note
    [3:19:06 PM] ME: if i don't get the account by thursday,
    [3:19:12 PM] ME: i want money back
    [3:19:24 PM] ME: i can't waste more of time
    [3:19:37 PM] ME: i would rather buy it from other guy
     Thursday, October 30, 2014
    [10:52:32 AM] ME: bro, I still don't have the account
    [10:52:40 AM] ME: please refund me
    [10:53:48 AM] ME: if I don't get accounts, or refund by the end of thursday Oct 30,2014 (US, New York time), i will report you
    
    
     
  2. OldSalt

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    ResellerPanel has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    OS
    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

    Reminder to everyone else:
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    If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
     
  3. ResellerPanel

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    Hello OS.
    Thank you to remind me about this.

    Yes, he has ordered me before dewali festival and PAID ON PAYPAL. I wanted to deliver the account ASAP but due to rush sesion of diwali, there had been a dealy for dewali,
    I reminded him that delivery will be done within next 2 days. unfortunately that couldn't happened.

    Buyer was in rush, and as the nature of service it would take about 2-3 days to create and deliver successful windows developer account. so, i decided to refund him and offered the refund as well.

    BUT, buyer keep on asking me to send refund to 3rd party, and he said he can not accept the refund of the EXACT same transaction or EXACT same paypal.
    I Did not wanted to get a charge back or dispute for a transaction which has already been refunded, so i decided NOT TO refund any 3rd party service as buyer asked, Webmoney, Perfect Money.

    As a seller, honestly i can not refund with a transaction other than the EXACT same transaction from which buyers paid for the service.
    I'm still ready for refund to the EXACT same transaction or to provide the delivery service.

    2nd, buyer posted me a negative feedback CALLING ME AS A SCAMMER OF $149. He judged me as Scammer, when actually i'm personally against scammers.
    I keep on requestion him to refund on the EXACT same transaction but he refused and sent me other paypal ID for refund payment.
    I still don't understand here who will get scammed ? is it me, who send refund $149 to the buyer with 3rd party transaction and gets a chargeback or dispute on EXACT same transaction by which buyer paid ($149) for service, OR The buyer who claimed it.

    Here i can see only 3 possibilities:
    1. I simply refund to the paypal on the transaction by which buyer paid for service.
    2. Buyer have to wait for next 2-3 days so i can deliver the service.
    3. Buyer have to wait for dispute period gets over so i can do the 3rd party refund.

    IDK, what you have posted on skype log, i just looked at the last point where your chatlog ends, and i'd like to post and chatlog after that point.

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  4. zhmurki

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    The guy is a time waster,I explained to him that I used exchanger to send him PayPal as at that moment I did not have an account.I contacted exchanger and asked if they are willing to accept refund, but got no response.I created PayPal account using my email( the seller knows this email as I asked him to send account info to this email) and asked him to send money to MY PayPal account. I did not mention any 3rd party. The seller started to saying that he will refund in 2 days as soon as he gets money to his PayPal. I've heard 2 days again and again... All this wasted time... The guy hold my money for way too long.At the end he blamed me saying that I'm trying to scam him. Funny...As for I was in a rush. Who would not. I'm here to make money and not waste time waiting forever to get dev accounts.I wasted 10 days waiting for this guy...The last, you are saying :"Buyer was in rush, and as the nature of service it would take about 2-3 days to create and deliver successful windows developer account. so, i decided to refund him and offered the refund as well." It's not true, you failed to deliver company accounts on time, I gave you more time. You came back and said that you can't. I said give me regular accounts, You said 2 more days. I waited 3 days and ask for refund. Please don't misrepresent the facts.Below is a full conversation log:
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      Monday, October 20, 2014[2:37:09 PM] ME: hi this is zhmurki from blakhat about win dev acczs Tuesday, October 21, 2014[1:16:56 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hi how can i help you?[9:47:35 AM] ME: you said you have windows dev acc, i want to buy some[12:46:49 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Do not have windows yes, i can create them for you.[12:47:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Do sell iOS and Android dev accounts.[12:52:59 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: what type of windows dev account you looking for.[12:53:18 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 1. Individual or 2. Company?[1:10:21 PM] ME: i need both as I'm testing some ideas[1:10:32 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok[1:10:50 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I Can provide you all kind of DEV accounts.[1:11:01 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: TAT 2 days.[1:12:05 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Win: 1. Individual Accounts: $50+$19        2. Company Account : $50+ $99[1:12:46 PM] ME: what's $50 and what's $99 in your company pricing?[1:13:16 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: $50 Service fee, and $99 is windows fee what we need to pay them[1:15:45 PM] ME: do you accept bitcoins?[1:16:06 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Not for now.[1:16:17 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll accept it very soon.[1:16:41 PM] ME: how about perfectmoney?[1:17:07 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i use only paypal/ Skrill/ WU for now.[1:18:10 PM] ME: give me you paypal and i'll try to send money today if I find an exchanger[1:18:55 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: dishyweb AT hotmail.com[1:19:33 PM] ME: ok, i will send you a message as soon as I send money, you can start preparing company account[1:19:47 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok[2:36:07 PM] ME: i have sent you $149 to your dishyweb AT hotmail.com[2:36:46 PM] ME: when can I expect to have windows company developer account?[2:37:34 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: within 2 days, i try to deliver you by tomorrow[2:37:41 PM] ME: thanks[2:37:52 PM] ME: send it to my email[2:37:59 PM] ME: MY_EMAIL at europe.com[2:38:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: if you need android or iOS developer account, don?t forget to ask me[2:38:09 PM] ME: sure[2:38:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: sure, i?ll send the detail over there[2:38:17 PM] ME: android and iOS, too many people[2:38:30 PM] ME: I'm trying to explore the new horizon :)[2:38:38 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: good.[2:38:42 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: are you developer?[2:38:44 PM] ME: but if anything, i'll contact you[2:38:49 PM] ME: yes[2:39:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: you develop for client or yourself.[2:39:10 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i need one app as well.[2:39:43 PM] ME: right now i only develop for my self[2:39:52 PM] ME: in the future maybe[2:39:58 PM] ME: i have barely time[2:40:05 PM] ME: for my ideas[2:40:16 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok, i?m looking for an android app, if you can do or suggest someone, would be better[2:40:23 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll be in contact[2:40:36 PM] ME: i'll ask around[2:40:38 PM] ME: ok[2:40:45 PM] ME: have to get back to work[2:40:52 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok[2:40:53 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: np[2:40:55 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: thanks Thursday, October 23, 2014[9:36:57 AM] ME: hi, still waiting for an account[9:37:02 AM] ME: what's the status?[10:15:33 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Today is diwali festival here.[10:15:43 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: its like christmas to us.[10:15:54 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?ll deliver the account by tomorrow.[10:35:31 AM] ME: ok[10:35:45 AM] ME: enjoy your chrismas :) Friday, October 24, 2014[1:39:44 PM] ME: bro, still waiting for an account[3:23:10 PM] ME: hey[3:23:25 PM] ME: when will I receive an accounts[3:23:47 PM] ME: it's been 4 day already Saturday, October 25, 2014[3:26:15 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: hello. Sunday, October 26, 2014[12:08:43 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hello[1:46:18 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hello Monday, October 27, 2014[10:48:22 AM] ME: hey,[10:48:35 AM] ME: i still did not recevie the account[10:48:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes.[10:49:04 AM] ME: what's taking so long[10:49:15 AM] ME: you promised to give in 2 days[10:50:10 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I tried to contact windows, but i see they asking for business detail, I just wanted to confirm, account will be given PERSONAL DEV ACCOUNT. as soon as i get your confirmation the account will be delivered in next business day[10:50:57 AM] ME: you will give a personal account to me? is that right?[10:51:05 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes[10:51:14 AM] ME: i paid for a company account[10:51:37 AM] ME: you can't get a company?[10:52:20 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, but windows going so much strict about company account, i have already lost my $99 by applying this. this is the very first time i came across this issue.[10:53:07 AM] ME: bro, we agreed to one thing and now you are saying the other[10:53:15 AM] ME: it's not the way you do the business[10:54:52 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i understand, but getting fake company account no more possible, and we?ll do some research and company account will be available in few days. but for now, it is not possible.[10:55:22 AM] ME: in few days?[10:55:47 AM] ME: will you be able to deliver the company acc in few days?[10:56:18 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, it will take 10-15 days of research, testing etc.[10:57:06 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: For this order is suggest you to go with personal, you won?t get any issue.[10:57:49 AM] ME: ok[10:57:58 AM] ME: give me 5 personals instead[10:58:21 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 5 personal ? i don?t understand[10:58:45 AM] ME: yes, I paid $99 for one company,[10:58:54 AM] ME: your pesronals are $19[10:59:47 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 5 personals are not possible from my end due to costing.[11:00:03 AM] ME: so how many is possible[11:00:17 AM] ME: i don't want to overpay[11:00:25 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: well, i?m already in loss of $99 and work. by failing of windows company account[11:00:51 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: let me just calculate.[11:01:09 AM] ME: bro, it may sound rough,[11:01:34 AM] ME: but why should I pay for service I don't receive[11:01:46 AM] ME: i lost time, but I don't charge you for that[11:01:54 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, thats true.[11:02:00 AM] ME: i could get it already from another seller[11:03:25 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: btw. Personal Account : $19 + 50 (Service fee) = $69. I?ll deliver 2 Personal Accounts: $69x2= $138[11:03:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Rest of $11 will get refunded.[11:05:31 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i do agree with that, and apologise again for the delay due to diwali festival.[11:20:15 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Are you still there bro?[11:28:00 AM] ME: still here[11:28:05 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes[11:28:08 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i? waiting for you.[11:28:32 AM] ME: how about 3[11:29:11 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 3 is not possible: As the cost will be 3x$69=$207.[11:29:27 AM] ME: ok[11:29:31 AM] ME: let's get 2[11:29:33 AM] ME: how soon[11:30:04 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 24 hours-48 hours max.[11:30:19 AM] ME: deliver the acc as soon as you get them[11:30:38 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: sure, please let me know your email id, so i can sent it over there, if you not available.[11:31:26 AM] ME: MY_EMAIL at europe.com[11:31:37 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Thank You Wednesday, October 29, 2014[10:40:38 AM] ME: hey[10:40:42 AM] ME: still waiting[10:40:47 AM] ME: how much longer[10:41:14 AM] ME: you said 48 hours max[10:41:20 AM] ME: ???[10:41:44 AM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i?m waiting for windows approval.[3:18:51 PM] ME: just note[3:19:06 PM] ME: if i don't get the account by thursday,[3:19:12 PM] ME: i want money back[3:19:24 PM] ME: i can't waste more of time[3:19:37 PM] ME: i would rather buy it from other guy Thursday, October 30, 2014[10:52:32 AM] ME: bro, I still don't have the account[10:52:40 AM] ME: please refund me[10:53:48 AM] ME: if I don't get accounts, or refund by the end of thursday Oct 30,2014 (US, New York time), i will report you[2:44:47 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Hello,[2:45:10 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I guess there will be bit delay to deliver the order,[2:45:27 PM] ME: no more delays[2:45:33 PM] ME: i need money back[2:45:37 PM] ME: sorry[2:45:44 PM] ME: it's been to long[2:46:03 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i'll provide you the full refund, Please wait for next 2 days and you'll full refund to your paypal.[2:46:23 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i apologise for the delay.[2:48:18 PM] ME: another 2 days?[2:48:58 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, just for payment refund.[2:49:08 PM] ME: i don't have paypal[2:49:24 PM] ME: you will have to use exchanger and send it to my perfetmoney account[2:50:51 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: but i can not send refund via 3rd party[2:56:49 PM] ME: so now you are going to blame me?[2:57:00 PM] ME: why can't you?[2:57:23 PM] ME: i accept pm or btc[2:57:29 PM] ME: either way is fine[2:57:41 PM] ME: there are plenty of services who can do it[2:57:44 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: 3rd party refund is not possible either way.[2:57:56 PM] ME: who says so?[2:58:30 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can only refund to paypal, you can get the payment from the paypal from where i recieved payment.[2:58:51 PM] ME: amigo,[2:58:56 PM] ME: stop wasting time[2:59:06 PM] ME: find exchanger and get back to me[2:59:13 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: refund is only made on the trasaction on which payment is accepted[2:59:22 PM] ME: if you can't look for help from forum members[3:02:08 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok, i'll see,[3:15:39 PM] ME: ok[3:15:49 PM] ME: i found way to accept paypal[3:16:02 PM] ME: if you send it right now, i can give it to you[3:16:42 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can not send right now. All i can do is, issue the refund of transaction made.[3:16:58 PM] ME: common[3:17:12 PM] ME: how come[3:17:42 PM] ME: i found way to accept the money, and you are just resisting[3:18:08 PM] ME: refund transaction or send money, how is that different?[3:19:07 PM] ME: are you affraid to lose money on transaction?[3:19:15 PM] ME: i'll cover the cost[3:19:47 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: refund transaction = Payment refunded of non delivery of product/service. send money = its simply sending money. If i do not refund for the non delivary of service, i'd be afried of getting disputed again.[3:20:22 PM] ME: how come? you will have the transaction history and this conversation log?[3:20:30 PM] ME: what are we even talking about[3:20:38 PM] ME: it's as simple as it is[3:21:11 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, for practically it is, but when it comes to paypal dispute, they just go with buyer. and gives them benifit of doubt[3:22:01 PM] ME: me no comprendo[3:22:13 PM] ME: you are making excuses[3:22:22 PM] ME:  i already wasted my time anf effort a[3:22:43 PM] ME: what's going to be next time?[3:23:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: let me discuss this with my partner, if he allows me i'll do 3rd party transaction[3:23:23 PM] ME: we are not talking about any 3rd party[3:23:36 PM] ME: i give you my paypal account and you send money[3:23:45 PM] ME: no exchangers involved[3:25:00 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: ok, give me paypal and allow me 2 days, let me see, if possible i'll refund to new paypal, if not, i'll simply refund to the transaction made[3:27:26 PM] ME: i don't want you to refund to transaction made as I used exchanged to send you money[3:27:44 PM] ME: i want you to send my money back to my paypal right now[3:27:53 PM] ME: i don't want to wait 2 more days[3:28:02 PM] ME: you already kept my money too long[3:28:08 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: mate, please allow me 2 days to send the refund.[3:28:14 PM] ME: i could purchse accounts and make mony by now[3:30:39 PM] ME: so[3:31:01 PM] ME: are you sending me money, or I open dispute on the blackhatworld?[3:32:29 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can not send money now as i dont have. I can only send money in 2 days. No need to open dispute as i'm here no to scam anyone.[3:33:13 PM] ME: look, i tried to be tolerant and gave you more thatn 2 days[3:33:18 PM] ME: you keep promising[3:33:23 PM] ME: it's too late[3:33:33 PM] ME: i wnat to sleep and not willing to wait more[3:33:41 PM] ME: make your decision now[3:33:52 PM] ME: send me money, or[3:34:24 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: yes, i have tried with windows, they have changed the system and not accepting card anymore, i have already lost, $99+$19 while creating accounts.[3:35:01 PM] ME: no offense, this is not my problemo[3:35:09 PM] ME: i paid for service[3:35:15 PM] ME: did not get the product[3:35:18 PM] ME:  need refund[3:35:39 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i have to again do a research and testing, tostart creating windows dev accounts, meanwhile you have to wait for 2 days to get refund, as soon as i get payment to my paypal i'll refund the transaction[3:36:07 PM] ME: which payments are you talking about?[3:36:22 PM] ME: from other people like me?[3:36:25 PM] ME: ok[3:36:27 PM] ME: that's enaough[3:36:35 PM] ME: here is my account: MY_EMAIL at europe.com[3:36:52 PM] ME: I will check it in few hours,[3:36:56 PM] ME: no mmoney[3:37:06 PM] ME: sorry , I will open dispute[3:37:23 PM] ME: forum members must know, before they deal with you[3:37:34 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: please open now[3:37:43 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i have tried everything to help you out.[3:37:58 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: I CAN ONLY REFUND TO THE TRANSACTION MADE[3:38:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: IF ITS PAYPAL PAYMENT I HAVE TO TAKE CARE[3:38:19 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can not send the refund with any other transaction other than THE SAME TRANSACTION FROM WHICH I GOT THE PAYMENT[3:39:05 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: You are open to go for forum dispute.[3:39:20 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Please go now and do it, if you really cant wait for 2 days[3:39:27 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i'm here not to scam you.[3:39:47 PM] ME: you already scammed me for $149[3:40:16 PM] ME: if you did not want to scam, yo send money to MY_EMAIL at europe.com[3:40:23 PM] ME: easy and simple[3:40:32 PM] ME: but you are making up excuses[3:40:33 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can not send the refund with any other transaction other than THE SAME TRANSACTION FROM WHICH I GOT THE PAYMENT[3:40:40 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: its not excuse[3:40:46 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: its rule[3:41:04 PM] ME: are you saying, paypal does not allo you to send money to any other account?[3:41:11 PM] ME: this is b.s[3:41:25 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: Please go for forum dispute[3:41:33 PM] ME: google, how to transfer money[3:41:53 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: you'll know all possibilities[3:42:04 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i'm doing what i can do with rule,[3:42:11 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i can not go against rule[3:42:41 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i guess you trying to scam me, with $149 refund and $149 paypal dispute[3:43:31 PM] ME: ooo[3:43:34 PM] ME: nice twist[3:43:42 PM] ME: now you are going to blame me[3:43:48 PM] ME: for not delivering product?[3:43:52 PM] ME: hahah[3:44:12 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i'm not blaming mate, i'm just saying the possibilities, and why i can not refund 3rd party.[3:44:44 PM] ME: there is no 3rd party!!![3:45:03 PM] ME: I just gave you my PAYPAL: MY_EMAIL at europe.com[3:45:17 PM] ME: that I just registered to accept the refund from you[3:45:39 PM] ME: check history of this conversation[3:45:50 PM] ME: it's the same email I ask you to send the accounts to[3:46:50 PM] ME: ok[3:46:52 PM] ME: that's[3:46:55 PM] ME: it ][3:47:01 PM] ME: i don't see point[3:47:21 PM] ME: talkin, in few hours, no money - ripper on blackhat[3:47:34 PM] ME: if you don't care about your forum reputaiton[3:47:35 PM] ME: fine[3:49:00 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: understand i can not refund now, i can only refund within 2 days once i get payment to my paypal.[3:49:22 PM] crumboweb_win_dev_ResellerPanel PBN DOMAIN and PBN CREATION SERVICE: i have in loss of $99+$19 already 
     
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    Resellerpanel, the problem is yours - you made an agreement that you couldn't keep. Now you have to find a way to fix the problem and do it quickly. If that means you take a leap of faith and break one of your rules, so be it.

    You've got 48 hours to find a way or I'll temp ban you until you do. Your choice.

    OS
     
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  6. ResellerPanel

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    Thank for the resolution,
    I'll deliver 2 windows developer account to buyer today, if i'm failed to deliver the account today, i'll send the refund to the transaction.


     
  7. zhmurki

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    Thanks OldSalt and respect for wise solution. ResellerPanel,I don't need accounts from you. You could not deliver company acc, later you could not deliver regular acc. Now, I don't want your accs.I requested money back, so please refundI already got the accounts from other sources, and I'm happy with them.Please, send my money to the Paypal acc I gave you.
     
  8. ResellerPanel

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    Alright, i will send refund to the aypal transaction , please be advised i will send the refund to the same transaction ID, by which i have been paid.

    Thanks Again.



     
  9. ResellerPanel

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    Payment Refunded to : alfacashier@gmail.com

    Refund Amount: $149

    Remember: Buyer and OS, This is the same transaction by which i received the payment.
     
  10. zhmurki

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    I told you to return money to my account. This email, I don't know it...

    I don't know if that's(alfacashier at gmail.com) the correct paypal account you sent money to . As i said I used exchanger and I cannot confirm if ResellerPanel really refunded the money.

    I contacted them earlier about the refund but they did not reply.

    It's up to the moderator. what you want to do next.
    I did not receive any money, but if you decide it's the way to do it, I'll have to simply accept it
     
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    Zhmurki,

    Honestly, if you had been a member a bit longer, with more to lose, I would have insisted that he trust you and refund to the other PP. Given that you have very little history here, I can't in good faith order him to do that, because it would leave him open to you disputing the original PP after reaching your exchanger.

    I would suggest that you continue to contact your exchanger.

    OS
    PS. ResellerPanel - either post or PM me a screenshot of the refund.
     
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  12. zhmurki

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    OS,I guess I have to leave with it.Thanks for your time
     
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    Hi guys,

    I have an issue with ResellerPanel as well.

    One week ago I sent him $200 for what he promised me would be a Facebook acct and Paypal acct synced with functioning payments. Promised ETA in 24-48 hours. After payment, he stopped answering any of my messages.

    Now I'm bringing this up because there has been no effort to even work something out with me. I demand immediate delivery of all services in working conditions or a full refund, and would appreciate the support of the BHW mods in obtaining this.
     
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    start a separate "ShitList" on him/her. This way moderator will review it and you may get you r money back.
     
  15. OldSalt

    OldSalt Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    No need to enter a separate SL but I will more info - skype logs etc (with personal info removed of course).

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