BBC presenter's death due to complications from COVID vaccine

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No there isn't. That's yet another fallacy made up by conspiracy fucknuts.

Fallacy ? I asked a yes or know question, I didn't make a statement.
Did COVID19 outright kill them ?
Like a coroner would say. "The bullet to the brain caused massive head trauma and they died from their wounds."
What they wouldn't say is "They died from a broken wrist, because the bullet to the head caused them to fall over and break it".

Someone suffers a massive heart attack, he got mouth to mouth resuscitation from an infected COVID19 person and dies 24 hours later... so the blood test shows he had COVID.. but that didn't kill him.
 

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Fallacy ? I asked a yes or know question, I didn't make a statement.
Did COVID19 outright kill them ?
Like a coroner would say. "The bullet to the brain caused massive head trauma and they died from their wounds."
What they wouldn't say is "They died from a broken wrist, because the bullet to the head caused them to fall over and break it".

Someone suffers a massive heart attack, he got mouth to mouth resuscitation from an infected COVID19 person and dies 24 hours later... so the blood test shows he had COVID.. but that didn't kill him.

A yes or know question?

Must be a yes then because you don't know shit.
 

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Let's stop arguing and putting each other down, as the outside world can do a great job of it. I hate to see members of BHW doing that to each other. How about we agree to disagree and stop insulting one another and respect others' feelings. I doubt this will do anything or stop members from attacking others but remember this is not accomplishing anything, and you're not going to change anyone's mind. Let's stop talking about it and let this topic go.
 

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Let's stop arguing and putting each other down, as the outside world can do a great job of it. I hate to see members of BHW doing that to each other. How about we agree to disagree and stop insulting one another and respect others' feelings. I doubt this will do anything or stop members from attacking others but remember this is not accomplishing anything, and you're not going to change anyone's mind. Let's stop talking about it and let this topic go.

I and others have proposed this topic get banned and the idea was rejected.

Problem is that by spreading lies, they're hurting people. Really, really hurting people, especially the uneducated who believe this BS and then regret not vaccinating when they're dying.

All their arguments are just fallacies, all distorted half facts to sabotage vaccines for some unknown reason.

We need everyone vaccinated asap to end this nightmare.

It's 2021 and we got people saying "if you're healthy you're immune to the virus". Then you show them 20 articles disproving this blatant lie, showing marathon runners dying from this virus, and they come up with "did the bullet or the finger kill the guy"? This is absurd. There is no more polite replies left for this stuff IMO.

We gotta end this absurd conspiracy shit cold turkey.

I vote that if the topic is allowed, and they're about to lie about it, then others should be allowed to reply about it to help stop the insanity. There are enough dead people from the antivaxxer lunacy.
 

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Where I live there was a compulsory military service until some years ago. When I was serving I was dispatched in a company with some guys, basically uneducated, quite stupid and pretty primal in their ways of thinking and acting (they were all from an infamous minority group).
Their thought process was exactly like yours, I kid you not. Thank god there were mandatory vaccinations and infection control practices they were forced to follow, otherwise all of the rest of us would've gone berserk.
Those guys still managed to get to some of us some salmonellae and hepatitis though.


Understood?

Crystal clear. Every time I communicate with someone like you I understand a bit better why are we where we are as a civilization. Thank you.
 
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Where I live there was a compulsory military service until some years ago. When I was serving I was dispatched in a company with some guys, basically uneducated, quite stupid and pretty primal in their ways of thinking and acting (they were all from an infamous minority group).
Their thought process was exactly like yours, I kid you not. Thank god there were mandatory vaccinations and infection control practices they were forced to follow, otherwise all of the rest of us would've gone berserk.
Those guys still managed to get to some of us some salmonellae and hepatitis though.




Crystal clear. Every time I communicate with someone like you I understand a bit better why are we where we are as a civilization. Thank you.

Ask the meds to put your next 5.0 voodoo vax on the brain to upgrade your civilization level. You're welcome.
 

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Start by learning basic grammar before making a reply.
I am good at looking to fake made up numbers to scare easy to manipulate people like you.
Basic grammar doesn't help you with math, tho.
 

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I know the feeling of 3 weeks can't do anything, end of last july -- mid august.
 

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I and others have proposed this topic get banned and the idea was rejected.

Problem is that by spreading lies, they're hurting people. Really, really hurting people, especially the uneducated who believe this BS and then regret not vaccinating when they're dying.

All their arguments are just fallacies, all distorted half facts to sabotage vaccines for some unknown reason.

We need everyone vaccinated asap to end this nightmare.

It's 2021 and we got people saying "if you're healthy you're immune to the virus". Then you show them 20 articles disproving this blatant lie, showing marathon runners dying from this virus, and they come up with "did the bullet or the finger kill the guy"? This is absurd. There is no more polite replies left for this stuff IMO.

We gotta end this absurd conspiracy shit cold turkey.

I vote that if the topic is allowed, and they're about to lie about it, then others should be allowed to reply about it to help stop the insanity. There are enough dead people from the antivaxxer lunacy.

If you want it to end then requesting discussion of it being banned is counter-productive. This forum would just end up like reddit and facebook where only one opinion is allowed. Having a healthy discussion is the best way to "educate" others, rather than insulting somebody for their views, it just makes them more inclined to oppose you.

There are clearly issues on both sides of the debate otherwise this discussion could have been killed a long time ago. Whilst some of the theories are extreme, it's up to people if they want to believe it or not.
 

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There are clearly issues on both sides of the debate otherwise this discussion could have been killed a long time ago. Whilst some of the theories are extreme, it's up to people if they want to believe it or not.

There aren't issues on both sides. One side is posting crazy moon landing UFO vaccine conspiracy BS and the other is asking people to get vaccinated.

It's not about wanting to believe those lies or not, they're just lies.
 

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There aren't issues on both sides. One side is posting crazy moon landing UFO vaccine conspiracy BS and the other is asking people to get vaccinated.

It's not about wanting to believe those lies or not, they're just lies.

My point is, you stated that vaccinations are the only way to get out of this pandemic, which may be true, but how do you know these set of vaccines will be the answer? It's literally the first draft, what happens if they find better developments over the next few months/years? It's ok to ask questions as long as there's no crazy theories in my opinion.
 

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There aren't issues on both sides. One side is posting crazy moon landing UFO vaccine conspiracy BS and the other is asking people to get vaccinated.

It's not about wanting to believe those lies or not, they're just lies.
I mean, we've got "vaxxers" (such as yourself and others) posting fake studies and making up science. But once it fits the narrative it gets overlooked. :D
If you think everyone concerned is posting "conspiracies" as you describe it, then you're simply incorrect, same as if you're unable to put emotions aside during debate and reasoning.
 

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Show me a fake study I posted or GTFO
I mean, even if I trawl through all your posts (waste of my time) and attempt to disprove the propaganda you post (others already have), you believe in your cause too much and I don't believe you are capable of making an honest concession, or thinking critically. I mean telling me in a childish manner telling me to GTFO :) :D) already tells me something.

I've benefited greatly from the research done in this topic in this area and also looking at facts in others, arguing with people like you in the long term would be a waste of time. So I just consider conversing like now to be some light sparring, you can think what you want, and be ignorant, doesn't change the facts that's out there.

To prove my first point, from the posts I can see recently: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/s...large-scale-study-shows.1353485/post-14661252 this is where I've proven that the study you agreed with was indeed false and does not prove that masks reduce the spread of covid.

You've mostly (from what I've seen) been insulting others, posting some news articles talking about covid deaths, and referencing a group of antivaxxer firms, etc.

Also making wild claims that by taking the vaccine you wont kill your grandparents.. lol.

Now, to prove my second point, https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/p...nments-to-ransom.1353499/page-2#post-14641623
You're making up science because you claim that by not taking the vaccine, you're going to kill your grandparents (what a positive thing to say!) which is something I've never even heard on the biased mainstream media or from anyone pushing the agenda.
The data shows that you probably won't be killing them (and neither will covid):
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So that claim is incorrect. I can go further, but not worth my time and you'll probably give some stupid response or dismiss it entirely.
 

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I lost a good friend to covid recently. Record holding marathon runner, way younger than me.

I drank all the beers while he ran 100 km races and made the news. He was healthier and stronger than me.

Stop spewing this bullshit already. "Healthy lifestyle" won't do shit if you catch the bad version of covid. It wastes you like you're shit, healthy or not.

Interesting.

My girlfriend's grandfather, a 94 year old man with health conditions survived covid.

So did my gf's parents, 60+.

Keep spreading these stories though. They sound wonderful and boy do they put the fear of god into people!

Spread the fear!
 

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