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BassTrackerBoats/Inception_AC Journey to Making Money With Facebook Groups

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by sampo1time, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. sampo1time

    sampo1time Regular Member

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    Read both BassTrackerBoats & Inception_AC guides to making money with FB groups. The concept seems easy enough and BTB claims to be making $500-$800 daily on almost autopilot. That kinda money is worth a shot for me. So I'm gonna give it a go and log here my triumphs and failures (would definitely prefer more triumphs though).

    What I have so far:
    -VPS
    -Massplanner
    -FaceDominator
    -7 live FB accounts
    -private US proxies 1 for each account
    -belong to a few CPA networks
    -multiple websites to drive traffic to News, Gossip, Health, Business etc....

    Where I'm at currently:
    -I'm still in the beginning stages of trying to join groups. I initially started off with 15 PVA's and they drop like flies pretty quickly, currently only 7 left. I have only been joining 5 groups per day and running the random activity on Facedominator daily. I haven't even got to post once yet and the PVA's are getting murdered (friend verification and ID requests).

    Keeping FB accounts healthy seem to be my current sticking point. I found this gem in BTB post and going to go this route for future FB accounts to see if they will stay alive.

    Looking forward to seeing some results. If I could get to just half of what BTB claims I'll consider this journey a success. Anyone feel free to ask any questions or offer any advice.
     
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    Best of luck. Looks like your going down the same route I am too :)

    Getting blocked when only joining 5 groups? It could be an issue with new accounts. The filters seem stricter by the day now. With 2 year old accounts, I can join up to 18 a day to start off with then a little bit higher as time goes on. Might be worth trying with aged accounts. It's expensive but with some accounts (before they got suspended for 2 weeks), I made $100 each on them so it's worth the investment.

    Will be watching this thread with much interest!
     
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  3. sampo1time

    sampo1time Regular Member

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    Thanks for the tip. Just picked up a 6 yr aged account today. Looking for more aged accounts but seems like the market is pretty dried up right now.

     
  4. BassTrackerBoats

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    6 years old is really a bit of overkill... anything that is a year or so old is fine as long as you warm it up and PVA it.

    Nice to see you thinking and taking action!
     
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    Good Luck with your journey :)
     
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  7. sampo1time

    sampo1time Regular Member

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    I'm thinking overkill is a good thing in this situation. I'm tired of accounts getting banned before I even get going. Read around a bit and seems to be the consensus that aged accounts can join more groups daily. Would you be able to chime in on this? Looking to get the ball rolling ASAP.

    Small tip for those looking at getting mass planner. Get all the add ons at one time. The percentage off increases by 5% each time you add on an extra module. After about 5 modules the rest of the other ones end up being free due to the percentage off increase.


     
  8. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I have accounts that are just a few months old to a few that are a couple of years old and what keeps them all fat and happy is the normal FB user experience they all do.

    Timlining, liking, sharing, etc on a regular basis, and in larger amounts keeps them from getting hit by FB with bans.

    I also warm them up for some time, months actually, before I start posting in groups so that they have a well balanced and strong legitimate foundation under them.
     
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    Just picked up more aged accounts. I guess this journey is going to be idle for awhile as I'll be warming up accounts for the next month.

     
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  10. SonOfMan

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    can you give me some direction on purchasing accounts.
    Do you need to have the proxies in place first?
    Do you get the email account they are tied to or do you switch that out once you receive, are they even needed?
    And what about phone verification? Do I need to get a bunch of sim cards to be prepared for this or if i manage right do I not need to worry about this
     
  11. sampo1time

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    I've been purchasing accounts from various sellers and what you need varies depends on what you want on an account. If you are running a churn and burn operation then proxies and sims may not be required. But from my understanding, long living accounts will be better off with these.

    I found that new PVA (phone verified accounts) come with the account and email used to make it. The older accounts 2+ yr don't come with email used to make it because it's usually expired. The ones I've grabbed are not PVA either so I will be getting ph#s for each.

    It is recommended that for a healthy profile you'd need 1 dedicated private proxy per account. I have provided account creators proxies to create accounts with.
    But I believe most people just buy PVAs and switch to their own proxy after purchase.

    I've had a few accounts banned already, not sure why. But none asked for me to reverify my ph#. It was always friend identification and photo ID that was required.
     
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  12. SonOfMan

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    Im not sure if you can get around the friend identification this way I havent tried it but i did start a group with some friends once and simply added them into it and they didnt know, so that might be something you might try, put them in a group then when friend identification comes use another account find them in the group
     
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    Small Update:

    I'm still working on this journey. I've taken BTB advice to grow all my accounts as naturally as possible. So far I have 20+ FB accounts and combined part of 400+ groups. Though that 400+ groups number is significantly smaller if you consider that a lot of them are the same profiles joining the same groups. Also they are not all in the same niche.

    I will continue to build all my profiles steadily and in the near future finally make my first group post. Interested to see how that goes.

    Some questions I have if anyone my offer some insight:

    - For the BassTrackerBoats method, looking for groups niches that I could direct to my news type site. At first I was thinking join news groups, but I don't think thats the way to go. Any thoughts on this?

    - For the Inception_AC method, I'm part of many make money groups, and as he mentioned they are spammed to death. Which I plan to do also. But what I've been seeing recently is that people are not posting links to their landers. Most of the spam is the - Message me for more info - type offers. Has anybody had any experience with this? Is it more effective? Do they have an autoresponder on their FB messages or something?
     
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    Update:

    I've been letting my accounts mature over the past weeks naturally growing friends and joining groups. Ran my first campaign yesterday in a targeted yet competitive niche - make money online - not afraid to share it because my results were terrible. I used 5 accounts posted to 285 different groups each containing 1000-20000+ members. A spintax lead in was used followed by a link. Also posted on 5 other accounts walls with a couple thousand friends.

    Link lead to a simple email submit squeeze page that I have built my list through previously that has a steady conversion rate of 10% over the past year.

    Results:

    I got 7 new subscribers :(

    I will tweek my campaign and see if I can yield better results.
     
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    Hey what's up. I've tried Inception's method before so I can give you a run down of what I was experiencing and what I noticed. First I would like to say that if you plan to make money using Facebook groups you have to make sure that you are coming off as legitimate at possible. It's actually much more efficient to use BTB's approach rather than Inception's in regards to Facebook groups. The reason is because most people on Facebook will not pay attention to spammed links on groups. No one wants to click on links from a first time group joiner who just comes in, drops a link, and leaves.

    What BTB does is he warms up his accounts for months by posting in groups and coming off as a "regular" in the group, thus building up a reputation and some credibility. Once that is accomplished he finally posts to the groups with a link to an article. From what I understand, his method is not posting squeeze pages that are solely for collecting e-mails, or landing pages that go directly to CPA offers. What he is posting are links to detailed articles (that he may or may not have manually wrote) with some CPA offers or offers sprinkled in the articles via hyperlinks.

    The goal is to contribute valuable, click worthy and link relevant content to the group in hopes that you will get clicks to your article and therefore clicks to your offer links. The added reputation you get from warming the account up in the group will help with this as well. As far as Inception's method... I don't really have any good advice for that because from what I've noticed my links simply get ignored no matter what groups I was in, and no matter how optimized and designed my landing pages were (I usually posted links to 1 pagers that had a button directed to a CPA link, basically advertising what the CPA offer was promising, ex: win a free iphone, win a $100 gift card). This is what I have noticed, good luck.
     
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    Yes, OP, I second the notion of news articles and not just squeeze pages. The whole thing's a funnel, basically, and by just linking to a squeeze page you interrupt it.

    Value adding posts in groups (build credibility and trust)
    Pre sell lead-in (entices and piques interest)
    News Article (picks up where presell left off and encourages clicking contextual links and/or banners)

    By cutting out the news article you're in essence counting on just your lead in to sell the user. Also the news article is designed in such a way as to look super legit and build more trust/credibility. BTB does say he has a site that's just collecting emails, but I'll betcha that he's still using a news site to collect those emails and not a SP.

    Just my 2 cents.. subscribed and hoping you continue testing!

    Also - what were traffic stats on that test?
     
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    I'm curious to see the end result of this journey
     
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    The one thing I would advise is to buy SIMs in bulk and keep the SIMs filed away in a folder. I've had accounts which gone through 3-4+ 2 week suspensions and have ended up making over 3 times the conversions, by just keeping the SIM cards. Even if your making mass accounts. It only takes a minute or two to re-activate them then you're good to go. I've even noticed that the accounts are stronger each time they come back.

    That is why you should buy non PVA's.
     
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    I'll try the article way as I have a couple legit looking news sites. Thinking about making a typical report on how some kid made millions online or something and have links to a MMO offer since I have accounts that have joined over 300 MMO groups. I believe I might be targeting the wrong group though. As Inception mentioned there is a ridiculous amount on spam posts on these groups and my posts get pushed down in a matter of minutes. I honestly think nobody in these groups actually try to add legit content.

    As for my stats on the campaign, they were totally miserable. My fault though, apparently I used the wrong spintax symbols so all my posts were posted in full spintax form. They looked suuuuuuuper spammy lol.

    I'll keep plugging away. Still have my accounts joining groups on different niches to see I can get some legit traffic.

    On a side note, I did do a test post of a single share of an article from my authority site to a single targeted group and generated 200 visits to my site.

     
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    You can also create your own group and make it hidden or private. Add your accounts to it and post links in your groups. Nobody is going to flag you there - its your group. You can also make the posts admin approved. Not sure if that adds more strength but if your link is admin approved (by you) it might give it more weight. When you eventually start posting links in the groups you have found your account should have a bit more credibility in the FB bot as you have already posted a lot of links there were not reported for spam.
     
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