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Banned from Google Adsense :( Now What??

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sunseven, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. sunseven

    sunseven Regular Member

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    Need some help manuevering past a recent Google ban and need some advice from those experienced in side stepping the issue.

    They banned me because I was buying cheap traffic and they detected some suscipious click activity. I wasn't trying to game them at all, actually forgot I was even running adsense on that site but oh well. I tried appealing and when they asked the question about purchasing traffic i said no, I think I should have said yes because they still canned me after the appeal. Buy anyway here's my questions.

    I know you can sign up again with a different name, address, bank account and always sign in from a different ip. Got all that planned but heres's some further precautions I've been thinking about

    1.) I have a dedicated server that I run a bunch of my sites on but thinking that if I open a new account, and put ads on any site that is hosted on the same sever, Google may start getting suspious. NOTE: I know not to run adsense on the same site that got canned but just wondering if Goog goes that far as to try to tie together sites running on the same server (same ip, same nameservers). Anybody have any experience with this?

    2.) If I have other domains with the same whois info as the url that got banned. If I place adsense ads on them with my new account, will Google detect that and ban my new account?
     
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  2. nufaman

    nufaman Elite Member

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    Google spends millions on their network and has enough resources... eventually they will figure it out and kick you out again
     
  3. howard_hughes

    howard_hughes Elite Member

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    Get a new account on new name, address, ip, site, hosting, whois blah blah blah

    I have more than 6 accounts, its not so difficult if you cover your tracks properly.

    Google ISN'T GOD
     
  4. cyrsss

    cyrsss Regular Member

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    take a sip of coffee and start with new identity

    But u must be smart against Big G (tracking methods)
     
  5. pucky

    pucky Junior Member

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    You have 6 accounts? Tell us how they pay you, if they ever do. What address bank accounts do you use? 6 different ones? Hard to believe.
     
  6. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

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    Nah, this is common practice, IF it is done properly.

    I personally own over 40+ website properties and they are their own entity, which means that having their own accounts in any and all of the google systems is 100% within the TOS for using their services. They are seperate company entities, all owned by the same person and umbrella company, therefore, I can have seperate accounts on each one legally.

    As for the recommended practice of using adsense, I tell clients to think of it as you would the stock market. People invest in ads as they would invest in stocks, with the same resulting effects = making roi.

    I personally don't work this system for anything more than an R & D project, to keep up on the system and to know how to guide clients. There isn't enough profits in it for me to invest any serious amount of time outside of that in my specific case.

    The process is simple none the less...

    Build a sliding scale baseline, which a range of how many clicks you want to get per day, week, month, etc.

    Then, establish two buffer scales as well, one upper and one lower. The upper is obviously, the highest comfortable range you want to hit before getting into deep water with google for such a drastic spike in click-thru ratio.
    The next, is the lower, which is the baseline standard of going too low in clicks and income.

    By setting these standards, you have a red, yellow and black scale to work by for your slding scale profit margin. This is the same way stock brokers monitor the market. It is all about range and percentage points.

    First the baseline - your job is to promote moderately to maintain this range of clickthrough traffic. Google is concerned with the flux of your click-thru rate. Maintain and you will remain under the radar.

    The lower buffer - your job is to maintain your promotional work to keep you away from this line, obviously. IF you take a drop, give your campaign work a little push for a day or so until it comes back up into the primary baseline range, then STOP, returning to your normal daily routine, adjusting accordingly when needed.

    The upper buffer - your job is to maintain your promotional work to reach for this line and maintain it OVER TIME. Google doesn't care that you move up, they care that you move up too quickly, which looks suspect to them as to what you are doing, which is abusing the system in their eyes. Google adsense is not meant to make you money for supporting/displaying their ads. It is meant to give you a little incentive to support/display their ads...not be an income stream.

    However, if you work it steadily, finding what works and builds your click-thru rate up, then maintain it for a week and then move up by doubling that effort, then maintaining it for a week or two at that new level, you are going to be okay. The issue is in moving from a few cents the first day to $1k+ within a week that that take notice for.

    Work it slow and steady, it works for everyone and keeps you off that most watched and eventually the most wanted lists google tends to keep very current.

    This method works for me but like I said, I'm not using it for an income stream, as there isn't enough profit for the effort by my standards.

    Hope it helps with insight if nothing else.
     
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  7. sunseven

    sunseven Regular Member

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    Thanks for the insight good tips guys
     
  8. insanedragonz

    insanedragonz Newbie

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    Do adsense track you down all the way to your SSN? Let's say you use new address, new bank account, and new website but same SSN.
     
  9. insanedragonz

    insanedragonz Newbie

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    -system lag, hence double post-
     
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  10. balric

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    Yes they track ssn. It is easier to have multiple accounts outside the US.
     
  11. teeniegenie

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    How do you determine the "buffer scales" for a site? Certain websites? Certain software? Other?
     
  12. antrvant

    antrvant Junior Member

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    don't care.

    Just create new account and add ads again. If they ban your domain/site, don't put the ads on that site.

    if they ban Ip, I wonder how many sites will be banned when one share host owner get banned