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Baigboy was lazy, then scams me! Unreal

Discussion in 'The Shit List' started by CountStacula, Dec 12, 2010.

  1. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    About a week ago, I had made a thread and was looking for an experienced web designer. The user Baigboy sends me a PM and asked for my skype ID, which I gave to him. After about an hour of chatting (I was on my phone, or I would add the chat log) we decided he would build my website with 15 pages for 250$. At first, he was asking for 800$ for this simply project where he built the design and added all the content I gave him, which was ridiculous and goes to show you what kind of person this guy is. He agreed to complete the project within 10 days for 250$ and I had to pay 70$ upfront.

    So after about 5 day I asked to see what he had done, he said he would email me the design he had completed (took him 2 hours to email me) and here's what he emails me: [​IMG]

    Then I go to skype and ask him how stupid he thinks I am, to send me a cloned/bought design. Considering it clearly has the website in the bottom left, and I know he didn't come up with all that information about poker on his own. So then he asks me for 24 hours and he will send me a real design that he made, so I agreed with him. Then the next day, I ask him to send me the design (took him around 1-2 hours AGAIN) and here's what he sends me this time: [​IMG]

    BUT WAIT! Doesn't that design look a little similar to this: [​IMG]
    Which is posted on multiple websites for free or X$ and all you have to do is search poker website design.

    So, not only did he do this the 1st time with a cloned website, then takes a free design the 2nd time, but he actually had the nerve to take another free design from a website which I found as well and could post the proof to that also, but I think you guys get the point.

    Here's all of his replies to my emails:

    Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:46 PM

    I m Sorry Sir,my Internet is not working Properly so,i m not recived your messages,i will show you New Design and sorry for this design.Now i m in http://internetcafe.so/ give me 24h Time i will show you Good and Professional Design.

    Wednesday, December 8, 2010 11:54 AM

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]Hi,
    i am sending 2 layout .. both looking professional.. you can pick any one.

    Waiting For Reply.[/FONT]



    Thursday, December 9, 2010 4:24 PM

    Please check and let me know.

    **So he kept sending me design after design, clearly none of which he made himself**



    Friday, December 10, 2010 5:02 AM


    Are you mate,its professional Design Not a Clone,

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]i have not copied this layout from where.. if copied show me any proof.[/FONT]
    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]you waiting your time and my time too. I wasted 4 days time on it.[/FONT]
    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]its brand new layout and not copied from any where.[/FONT]
    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]if i copied it, show me proof. [/FONT]
    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=comic sans ms,sans-serif]As i worked on website 4 days and last 2 layout is completely professional looking. so i do not return money, why because i work on this project 4 days completely. i worked.[/FONT]

    Saturday, December 11, 2010 3:32 AM

    You Mean All Design Is Copy?Ok All Design Copy So show me Any One Proof.

    **Then I send him proof showing him most(the ones I could find) of the designs were copied**



    Saturday, December 11, 2010 9:13 AM


    Sorry Sir,I can't Refund Your Money.My Company Not Allowed Me.And This is not Same And Look At last 3 designs Its Clone.


    To sum everything up everything above, we talked on skype, he sent me cloned website designs 3 times, some emails had multiple designs, each time he basically agrees he didn't make them, considering he was then offering to show me new ones the next day, and continued to do the same thing each time. By the 3rd time, I had enough and asked for a refund and he trys to tell me his company won't allow him to refund my money, even though I had to send the 70$ to his friend paypal account. So, he was lazy and wanted 250$ for stealing a design, then adding my content, and then he decides to scam me when I want a refund, since he didn't do any work at all.

    This is the 3rd time this has happened to me trying to outsource to India. Between the quality of work, and the lack of professionalism, I have learned that you really get what you pay for. Well, in this case, I didn't even get anything for what I paid for.
     
  2. iseegreen

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    if you didnt contact the guy via a BST thread what can you expect ?
     
  3. citizenx28

    citizenx28 Regular Member

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    I remember a similar case where i got scammed. And the replies i got from the guys was pretty similar (the tone). Can you please reveal his skype or whatever contact he gave?

    Recently i got scammed on DP for over $1k. I hope this guy is not the same one.

    Thanks.
     
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    wwwDOTfreelancerDOTcom
     
  5. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    Skype was: Baigboy1
    I wish I wouldn't have talked to him through skype on my phone so I could show you what he said on there. He was telling me how if I wasn't satisfied with the new design he would refund my money. He said that each time and now I'm to the point where he isn't talking to me, and he won't refund me.
     
  6. citizenx28

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    Ok maybe he is the not the guy or maybe he is using different skype.. who knows. But is he still doing your website? And if not then give him a negative itrader. Its really frustrating when some one scams and then blames it on the clients.

    Sorry for all this you have to go through :-(
     
  7. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    Yeah, I mean it's just pathetic that he offered me a refund if I didn't like what he provided me with and each time he claimed to have not cloned the design and then when I proved he did, he said I will have a new design tomorrow and did the same thing. I'll be sure to give him the iTrader rating right now.
     
  8. citizenx28

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    Always use those freelance websites for the reason most of them support escrow nowadays. And the money deposited to the freelancer stays in a pool and only after you approve the freelancers gets its. So its more secure. I have also stopped asking for programmers/coders on free forums :-(
     
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    I was about to hire him good thing I changed my mind
     
  10. wealth54

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    all indians are not bad really , just work with professional freelancer who knows their stuff. always check their itrader or rating in their profile :)
     
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    Sorry to hear that.. Hope you have filed a paypal dispute.
     
  12. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    Sure have and I provided them with this thread with more than enough proof that he did not provide what we agreed on, then tries to run with my money.
     
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    truepals_forever Senior Member

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    File paypal dispute

    edit: just read you already did. Good luck!
     
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    So you people will never trust members, who are selling in BST and will outsource your work to some unknown and ready to lose money again and again.

    Anyway, post the baigboy member profile url, let me deal.
     
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    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    Thanks, http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/141165-baigboy.html

    and it was more so based on the quality of work he showed me from previous projects. I couldn't find a good web designer whose work I liked in the BST...
     
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    Pm ed baigboy. he is online now, let us wait for his reply.

    Just contact xplicit our mod or richman. They are providing excellent service.
     
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    Sorry to hear that, thanks for the heads up.

    You say you get what you pay for... in retrospect, $70 is a lot of money in India. So, technically, you're never getting what you pay for!

    That's why I'm glad everyone uses USD instead of EUR or GBP - save! ;)

    Have you tried a chargeback or raising a dispute? I mean, $70 is $70 at the end of the day - and it's the principle and integrity.

    Wish you the best of luck.
     
  18. CountStacula

    CountStacula BANNED BANNED

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    Filed a claim, awaiting PayPals actions now. 70$ is a lot to them, meaning he should have been prepared to actually do work, not clone other websites. Not to mention that was just what he wanted upfront.
     
  19. Baigboy

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    Hey Dude, I m Showing You Last 2 designs This,Every Body Provide me Proof I am Copied This Designs.i m honestly work i m wasting my time and he's saying me Refund my Money what the hell is this?look everybody and sent me proof.
    [​IMG]
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  20. Baigboy

    Baigboy BANNED BANNED

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    i m Not Scam you Ok.I m Doing Work Honestly But you Can't Reply me Correctly.you only says me Refund my money you don't see my Work.Correctly.