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Bad Backlink!!! - How Can I Block It?

Discussion in 'HTML & JavaScript' started by linksgalore2, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    Hi

    A couple of bad backlinks have appeared connecting to one of my sites (probably something I've done!) and Google has penalised the site.

    I can't get a response from the blog it's on so it's up to me to stop the big G seeing it as a link. How do I block it?

    I don't know if this is an html issue or a VB.net so I put the question here.:)

    Any help appreciated!!
     
  2. battman323

    battman323 Regular Member

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    how can Google penalize a site for links TO your site? There's no such thing. If that were possible, I'd take out my competitors like that.

    You can't stop google from seeing a link to your site. You can beg for forgiveness in Webmaster tools with a reconsideration request though.
     
  3. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    Hi Battman

    If a link to a 'good' site is coming from a site which is full of pornographic or gambling references and things like that Google definitely does penalise you.

    If you read through all the Google webmaster forums this is absolutely what can result in a slap form Google.

    You can indeed 'punish' rivals this way if you wish but Google is very clever at following this sort of thing.

    There is a method of redirecting the bots away from your site but I've only seen it in php code.
     
  4. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    Further to my last post.

    I thought some people might want to read this article

    HTML:
    http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/02/27/watch-out-for-backlink-sabotage
    Backlink sabotage is real and can be used in questionable ways. I wouldn't do it because you don't know who'll get you back - everything that comes around goes around!

    anyone experienced it?
     
  5. Diabolik

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    You could always put on your robe and wizard hat and cast Level. 3 Matt Cutts Salad Toss.
     
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  6. unitedcrown

    unitedcrown Junior Member

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    Google is not going to penalize you for a couple bad links.


    Google Can DO anything. They still penalize you for links from "bad neighborhoods" and you can get your competitors knocked out the serps, its just easier outrank them then knock them out
     
  7. unitedcrown

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    Google is not the moral savior. they do not think a bad neighborhood is a site that has pornography, pharma, or gambling on it. Bad neighbor hood refers to sites that don't follow googles guidlines.

    There is probably only a handful of people on this forum that do negative seo, and i'm sure these people are some of the lurkers
     
  8. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    hi - unitedcrown

    Just to be clear - I am not advocating this in any way.

    Google may not be a moral saviour but they do assess your site content and if porn etc are not relevant they don't like to see links coming from those sources.

    1 or 2 links are just ignored but if you have a few they penalise you. The article is interesting and does suggest this as does a good read through all the Google webmaster forum threads.

    I agree it's best to beat your competition outright. Someone however must have played this dirty trick on my site. It's completely bombed and the only thing I can see different is a few (3 in fact) dodgy links.

    Thanks for your comments anyway:)
     
  9. unitedcrown

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    I routinely have links intermixed from adult sites, but it does not hamper your site, the link just doesn't count as much. Nothing to do with the nature of the site, just with the fact that the sites content is unrelated to mine.
     
  10. sodapop

    sodapop Newbie

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    Linksgalore, engineers at Google have said that this kind of thing doesn't hurt your site because you can't control who's linking to you. Maybe there are exceptions, but I've been noticing a lot of Google penalties lately, so are you sure it's nothing else?
     
  11. linksgalore2

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    hi - sodapop

    I'm pretty certain. I have 5 sites which sell console game products. These essentially use the same template but obviously with completely different content. When I change one site I do it to all 5, so if I say add some content about the PSP on one site I'll add similar content about the PS3 on another.

    The other 4 sites are each going up in the SERPs very well. The only difference is that the 'banned' site has these 'bad' links.

    Consequently, people can claim what they want about the effect of bad inbound links (I'm not saying you are) but I'm certain it's the cause. The article I linked out to alludes to the same and as I've said google forums talk about this as well.

    I just hope the penalty is removed in time for xmas.:)
     
  12. sodapop

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    Hm, that's compelling, all right. And a little unsettling. Have you reported this in Google Webmaster tools or anything? Let me know how this ends, I hope you can get it fixed ASAP.
     
  13. mikie46

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    What can people here do about it? Why dont you contact Google, the source. You wont get much out of this from the people here as nobody can help you.
     
  14. goawayplease

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    Haha rather than debate whether or not it can happen, why not just answer his question?

    If you know the source URL of the link you can try contacting them to get them to take the time. If it's automated, or intentionally malicious then you can use server side code to redirect the link elsewhere.

    The necessary code can be found here:
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    http://www.somacon.com/p145.php
    A 301 is necessary as Google will still pass PR, Trust, and Penalties to the source of the 302; but a 301 will pass PR, Trust, and Penalities to the target of a 301.

    In short, if Site A is trying to redirect a bad link from Site B to Site C using a 302, Google will still penalize Site A. But if Site A uses a 301 to Site C, all the negativity from Site B will pass through Site A and rest on Site C.

    That being said, if Google bans a 301-ing Domain from the SERPs it doesn't ban the Target, it bans the Source. To revisit our example, Site A would be banned no matter how it redirects to Site C. Of course SERP bans are generally for things like cloaking, hidden links, or other On-Site no nos.
     
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    *zap* Regular Member

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    One .htaccess redirect

    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site1\.com [NC,OR]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site2\.com [NC,OR]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site3\.com [NC]
    RewriteRule .* http://www.send_them_to.com :eek:
     
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  16. goawayplease

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    This will toss a 301 redirect header, which is ideal based on the concerns I mentioned previously.

    Code:
    RewriteEngine on
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site1\.com [NC,OR,R=301]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site2\.com [NC,OR,R=301]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} their_site3\.com [NC,R=301]
    RewriteRule .* [url]http://www.send_them_to.com[/url] 
     
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  17. battman323

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    If Google is so clever how come they're punishing your site for sh*t you didn't do? I've had links from porn sites and they only brought me more traffic and better rankings.

    It's OK to differ on the base of experience though. If for some reason this is a legitimate cause, you go to webmaster tools, send in a reconsideration request saying you didn't solicit those links and you would like Google to block them against consideration for your rankings. If it's really hurting you, you'll be back inside of a week ( at least that's what happens when I send in reconsideration requests)

    Sometimes we thinkk something is penalizing us that really isn't. You should always carefully re-examine your on-page factors, besides the fact that Google may have simply changed the part of the algorithm that was giving you your best rankings. They may have reduced the link juice from your best links to your site, etc.
     
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  18. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    Thanks everyone who has tried to help me.

    If I knew the magical workings of Google I'd be enormously rich.

    I put a reconsideration request in about a week ago so I just have to wait now. I'm going through the on-site factors. Anything to try to get it back up.

    As I said thanks to everyone.
     
  19. linksgalore2

    linksgalore2 Newbie

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    sodapop - I've put in a reconsideration request. I let you know what happens.