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Backlinks - Can anyone suggest a service that actually works!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by roodujardin, May 5, 2010.

  1. roodujardin

    roodujardin Newbie

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    Hello everyone,

    I have tried these services here so far to increase backlinks:

    1. Purchased 100 edu links
    Result: zero
    2. Purchased 2k Directory submissions
    Result: zip
    3. Purchased 100 Spoke Linkwheel
    Result: Nada
    4. Purchased 5k backlinks
    Result: Zilch
    5. Purchased an additional Linkwheel
    Result: Nothing

    Overall result in 2 months: ZERO

    Now I have given this all time for indexing and even repeated indexing myself. Am I just getting scammed here, having bad luck or what. Appreciate if anyone can recommend a service where they have actually achieved results with the SERPS. Cheers.
     
  2. Vivica

    Vivica Regular Member

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    When you say you got no results were all these baclinks for one site and was it a new site?
     
  3. AGSniper

    AGSniper Regular Member

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    Did you test to see if all the results were accurate from these services?

    There's a lot of reasons that you could be experiencing this problem, so I would try to eliminate all the possible problems and variables before trying another service because I am sure you will find something wrong somewhere in the middle.
     
  4. BreakAllTheClocks

    BreakAllTheClocks Regular Member

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    Each service should provide a detailed report that includes the url where each link is placed. You can then manually verify that each link was created.

    Have you checked that the created pages are indexed? If they are not then add them to a rss feed and ping.
     
  5. TheWicker

    TheWicker Power Member

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    This may sound like an inappropriate question, but have you inserted your keyword as anchor? And if yes, were these at least 3 different keywords?
     
  6. roodujardin

    roodujardin Newbie

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    oh - forgot to add 250k xrumer blast - this is about 3 weeks ago but same result so far. Nothing.
     
  7. roodujardin

    roodujardin Newbie

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    To answer some queries, no this is not a new site; wanting to push it further. Yes I did check edu campaign. The log was nonsense, there were no posts. The 5k backlinks; OP didn't provide me with a log so I couldn't check. Same OP so I expect the same. The other logs I have checked and overall it looks like the job was done but without pinging. Spent some days pinging but so far to no avail.
     
  8. Talsin

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    Have you made sure your on-site SEO is fully sorted as well ?

    For at least some of those services it sound like you may have been flat out scammed, or the work may have been done poorly and didn't stick.

    What was the ranking of your site for your keyword before you started ? What are your competitors like ? How tough is your niche ?

    Competitive niches need constant constant constant SEO to get you onto the first page and make it stick, unless you are some really old authority site, but it takes a long time to build that kind of trust.
     
  9. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    I recommend you learn how to build your own links.

    I manually build for about 100 of my sites, but it breaks down to not very much work over time. I enjoy significant success. You don't need to pay for these services. The only service I pay for is article writing as that's too time consuming for my taste.
     
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  10. Fwiffo

    Fwiffo Power Member

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    My personal approach:

    I've determined that there is no "google manual" - by my estimate, 50% of the "common SEO strategies" are complete BS, 50% are valid. The challenge is, I have no idea which are which :)

    So instead of trying to focus on SEO for everything, I just build twice as much as I need to.

    50% of my projects float. 50% of my projects sink. Can never predict which will be in which category ahead of time.

    Example: I'm doing the twisted autoblog series (look for the massive thread in the blogging category). It's about building traffic without caring about SEO.

    Funny thing is, now 50% of my traffic (and it has been decent traffic for a new project) on a new project is coming from SEO - on a project where I am going out of my way to not care at all about SEO!

    Anyways, I'm pretty much saying that (I personally don't think) you can't make every site adjust to where you want it when you want it.

    Better to have a number of projects and what you think is a good gameplan, and with that some will work, some won't.

    If there were no posts in the log, you got screwed.

    Try building backlinks / buy comments or social bookmarks to the links / linkwheels you know about, that will do better to get them indexed than pinging them when there's no change.
     
  11. promzzz

    promzzz Junior Member

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    use some anlysis tools to check out the backlink,and i think you need learn yourself to find out how to broose the serp,test and test..
     
  12. roodujardin

    roodujardin Newbie

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    The niche is not that competitive, only 27k competing pages. I am ranking number 6 in Google. My site is well optimized. Having said that, the sites up front are strong in terms of domain age and backlinks. Funny thing is I have an eZine article sitting at position 1 and an Articlesbase article at position 3. How the hell did they get there with no work? From this I summize I can get there too??
     
  13. bobbylove321

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    Then your problem's solution is actually really simple.

    Get a backlink from a youtube channel page, articlebase, ezinearticles, ehow, and blogspot.

    You should be all set.
     
  14. designsonline

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    They can get there by a combination of domain age (which there is nothing you can do about...) and total domain links, not links to that page probably, but the total number of backlinks to the domain. They have tons of them.

    You can often beat them with properly targeted links to the page you are promoting. So if you have 7 or 10 time the number of links to the page than they have you may well beat them.

    By the way Not all linkwheels are created equal. I suspect that the 100 spoke linkwheel you mentioned was created using LFE and is a total waste of time. On the other hand there are at least 2 other linkwheel services here on BHW that do the job properly and I get success with every time...
     
  15. roodujardin

    roodujardin Newbie

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    Got em all!
     
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    roodujardin Newbie

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    Don't know what LFE is however, mind telling me who?
     
  17. klawre1221

    klawre1221 Regular Member

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    Micallef is right. Do your own backlinking and sub out the real labor intensive stuff like article writing.
     
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    I have to disagree here. I can put out an article in about 10 to 15 minutes, but it takes way longer than that to get a decent backlink.

    The hoops you have to jump through nowadays to get backlinks makes it very time consuming.

    If you already have a set series of places to go that you know are effective and you have accounts set up there, then maybe it is quicker, but that is a moot point for those that do not have the knowledge.
     
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    i will release xrumer-kinda posting tool soon.. then everybody can make their own backlinks with full database control
     
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  20. GreyWolf

    GreyWolf Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    @bugeye - That's the If I can do it then anyone can theory. It's a common mistake people tend to make. The reality is that different people have different talents.

    Bottom line, there are times when it's better to do it one way or the other, but what's best in any given situation isn't always the same for everyone.

    Personally, I like to outsource for large batches of backlinks. I also do my own backlinks to specific sites that I want backlinks on. The service will get me backlinks that I don't have available myself. I do them by hand to create some google friendly backlinks that look totally like natural links by real fans of my content. Even if the service duplicates some of the same sites it will be from different accounts and profiles.

    I can whip out an article in no time. Anyone that ha read many of my posts will agree, I can get pretty verbose at times. But I hate writing, it's like drudgery for me. I would really like to outsource articles, I just haven't found a writer that can produce what I need.
    (writers - please don't send me a pm!! I'll ask when I need anything.)

    Outsourcing anything you aren't good at, don't have time for, or don't have the tools for can be a very good idea.

    What your giving up though is some control of the process. If you learn to write articles yourself, then you'll get the type of articles you want. If you learn how to backlink, then you'll get links on the type of sites that you want.


    @roodujardin - As already mentioned there are a variety of reasons your results haven't been as good as you hoped. The services you used might not have been as good as they should be. That's always a risk you take by outsourcing. I've always found that using a few different services kind of balances it all out some, but in your case you already did that.

    If you do want to outsource still, then check out some of the services already mentioned in your thread. I posted a reply in another thread giving a set of guidelines to follow when selecting a service. It's pretty much common sense stuff, but you might want to take a look at it as well. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/196240-one-dumb-idea.html#post1747106

    You also should really evaluate the keywords your using. Check your stats and if there's enough data you should see some trends.

    Also use a backlink checker to see what backlinks are really turning up. Even if the service didn't ping the sites, they links should still show up. It'll just take a little longer for the crawlers to find them all. On the plus side though it also makes the linkbuilding appear more natural.

    I think in your situation I would also give some serious consideration to what Micallef has said and start your own link building campaign. It will be more work, but you'll have control over all the specifics that way.


    Hope all goes well for you. Good luck. :cool:
     
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