punkinhead
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- Feb 19, 2015
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This thread is only for the YT portion of the strategy. Other portions asked elsewhere.
Videos ready to go. Quality is very high. Initial tests show way above average sharing potential. Looking to do everything possible to get the ball rolling as fast as possible so long as:
1) The YT channel, artist site, and home IP can never be endangered, and no strategy can ever be allowed to harm artist reputation.
2) That's it. No other rules. Looking to hit the ground running and then some using everything that works.
So, YT channel is set up, links are active, artist site is almost ready (needs mailchimp opt-in, etc) I have recently started using tube assist (on a mac). So far, subbing other channels isn't doing anything at all. I'm wondering if the whole concept doesn't work anymore (like they can't see my featured video anymore).
Also using BuzzBundle to oversee various personas, scrape for YT comments on related artist pages, etc. Comments on related artist pages don't appear to be sending anyone my way either.
While a lot of the black hat stuff appears to me to be a waste of time or counterproductive in the long run, it does appear that pumping the YT view count is still vital.
So, correct me if I am wrong, but would the basic strategy be to unlist the video, then pump the views to 10k or so while tossing in as many social signals as possible, as many links as possible, lots of social shares, posts to reddit, etc.... then flipping the switch to public once the ball is rolling?
If so, while I can provide some of that momentum, getting to 10k while unlisted would need a push. I absolutely cannot have the vid yanked or channel suspended, so very concerned about getting this right.
I am currently deciding whether or not to use VEVO. If I do, they take over my YT channel entirely, and I am not allowed to have any bumpers, or any other channels anywhere on YT with the same content which hampers my marketing, but also potentially provides views via the VEVO app which could be significant.
However, being on vevo also means I can't turn off monitization, so I'm wondering whether that means I cannot pump view count without significant chance of ban.
Just repeating what I've been able to find. Feel free to correct me.
Anyway, what else should I be doing? Does it still work to scrape user comments on related vids and email them with link of vid and semi-personalized non-spammy introduction? Am I missing something else about how to use Tube Assist? Anything else I should know about purchasing views? Better strategy that involves more social signals and more organic appearance?
This is just one portion of a larger strategy. TONS of time, effort, and money have already gone into making the highest quality content possible, just on here to try to maximize my reach on YT as the majors have more unfair advantages than I care to count, and I don't have a couple hundred grand to spend on purchasing radio play like they do. I'm just trying to be realistic about how YT ranks vids. The first time I saw Gangnam Style, it wasn't because someone shared it with me. YT's algos put it front and center. Just looking to level the playing field so real people can make up their own minds once they've seen it. They do have to be given the opportunity to see it first, though.
Thanks.
Videos ready to go. Quality is very high. Initial tests show way above average sharing potential. Looking to do everything possible to get the ball rolling as fast as possible so long as:
1) The YT channel, artist site, and home IP can never be endangered, and no strategy can ever be allowed to harm artist reputation.
2) That's it. No other rules. Looking to hit the ground running and then some using everything that works.
So, YT channel is set up, links are active, artist site is almost ready (needs mailchimp opt-in, etc) I have recently started using tube assist (on a mac). So far, subbing other channels isn't doing anything at all. I'm wondering if the whole concept doesn't work anymore (like they can't see my featured video anymore).
Also using BuzzBundle to oversee various personas, scrape for YT comments on related artist pages, etc. Comments on related artist pages don't appear to be sending anyone my way either.
While a lot of the black hat stuff appears to me to be a waste of time or counterproductive in the long run, it does appear that pumping the YT view count is still vital.
So, correct me if I am wrong, but would the basic strategy be to unlist the video, then pump the views to 10k or so while tossing in as many social signals as possible, as many links as possible, lots of social shares, posts to reddit, etc.... then flipping the switch to public once the ball is rolling?
If so, while I can provide some of that momentum, getting to 10k while unlisted would need a push. I absolutely cannot have the vid yanked or channel suspended, so very concerned about getting this right.
I am currently deciding whether or not to use VEVO. If I do, they take over my YT channel entirely, and I am not allowed to have any bumpers, or any other channels anywhere on YT with the same content which hampers my marketing, but also potentially provides views via the VEVO app which could be significant.
However, being on vevo also means I can't turn off monitization, so I'm wondering whether that means I cannot pump view count without significant chance of ban.
Just repeating what I've been able to find. Feel free to correct me.
Anyway, what else should I be doing? Does it still work to scrape user comments on related vids and email them with link of vid and semi-personalized non-spammy introduction? Am I missing something else about how to use Tube Assist? Anything else I should know about purchasing views? Better strategy that involves more social signals and more organic appearance?
This is just one portion of a larger strategy. TONS of time, effort, and money have already gone into making the highest quality content possible, just on here to try to maximize my reach on YT as the majors have more unfair advantages than I care to count, and I don't have a couple hundred grand to spend on purchasing radio play like they do. I'm just trying to be realistic about how YT ranks vids. The first time I saw Gangnam Style, it wasn't because someone shared it with me. YT's algos put it front and center. Just looking to level the playing field so real people can make up their own minds once they've seen it. They do have to be given the opportunity to see it first, though.
Thanks.