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Automate sign up on free hosting sites & install WP blog *OR* automate existing web 2.0s?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi guys,

    Soon I'll be starting to think about automating some web 2.0's or Wordpress based blogs. The idea is to create a network of 50-100 web blogs and post niche related content to them on a regular basis. While they're getting indexed, build links to them and get some authority going. After a month or so, can slowly start linking out from the blog network to the money site(s).

    The links should be powerful because they're going to be very relevant links (all blogs will be on my niche).

    The hard part is automating the sign up process and posting process to these blogs. Sign up is not too bad, but I'll forever have to keep updating templates (In ZennoPoster) to be able to keep registering. I'll also probably have to often update templates for logging in and posting a new article. It's still probably very much worthwhile but I had a thought that would most likely reduce this workload dramatically.

    I've found around 40 or so free hosts at the moment. I was thinking to find maybe 100 total free hosts, and then automate the sign up process and WP installation on all of them. Once that is done, I won't have to worry about updating the 'log in and post' templates because I'll be in control of the WP blogs. I also believe these free host websites don't change their sign up forms as often as popular web 2.0 blog sites would.

    The only thing I can think of is the (I haven't confirmed this) lower authority of free host websites & subdomains, over using sites like Wordpress.com or Tumblr.com

    The workload would be a lot less, and I could produce great looking sites if doing my own free WP blog network - but, what do you think about the potential loss in link juice and authority by not using the already established blogging networks?

    Has anyone experienced this, or done anything similar?

    Kind Regards,
    Krzysiekz
     
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    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    No one wants to chime in? Come on, I am sure some of you guys are using a similar method!
     
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    Crewchief007 Power Member

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    You still haven't learned?
     
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    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    I still haven't learned what? I'm trying to understand what you meant, but I think you need to be a little more specific.
     
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    Take a look at rankwyz.
     
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  6. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Garrido,

    I should have mentioned, I am currently subscribed to RankWYZ. I was reluctant to subscribe at the start because I've never had a good experience with software or services that claim to post to web 2.0's. I did a very small campaign with RankWYZ and while it did the job on some sites, it failed / did not succeed for whatever reason on a fair few of my sample posts and it in a way got me to just give up on it all together.

    A great idea for sure, but I think the guys behind it are focusing too much on releasing new features and a little less on ensuring it is posting to as many platforms as possible. This was around 3 weeks ago though, so things could have improved in that time. Perhaps I should at least give it another test!

    But failing that, does anyone think making a private blog network of WP sites on free hosting providers is a good idea? Has anyone done it?
     
  7. ritesh

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    Well automating web2.0 is a good idea. But free web host not that great idea. When you create accounts on web2.0 you are getting subpage/subdomains on authority domains but in case of free web hosts only few will be authority 10-20 i guess and rest mostly pr0 etc.
    And secondly automating cpanel aint that easy which most of the free web hosts offer.
    What i can suggest is scrape some WPMU blogs. many are AA and it will be very easy to automate.
     
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    Considering everything that has transpired as of late, [networks deindexed, algo changes, article directories value downgraded, the latest attack on SAPE networks] only a newbie would publish their working tactics on a public forum for the WORLD to see. You do realize that agents from the G00gle web spam team frequent BHW? Even M-a-t-t C-u-t-t-s makes his visits to BHW.

    In other words, be very careful of what you publicly post; times have changed.
     
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  9. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Chief, thanks for clarifying. While I do agree with you to a certain degree - I think to trouble myself about posting my 'method' would be over the top. The reality is, what I've really posted here has been discussed to some length many times. Everyone is posting to web 2.0 sites and that is a very well known fact. I'm just trying to put a small spin on it.

    I think Matty boy doesn't have the time or resources to monitor threads like these, as I haven't really given away too much at all. But I do appreciate the concern, and will add some rep.

    Thank you
     
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    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Ritesh, thanks for your reply.

    I thought about going with WPMU blogs, but from what I read is that they're very unrealiable due to getting spammed very often. For this reason I thought I should just either stick with the well known web 2.0's, or use free hosting to set up my own network of WP blogs.

    I do agree about the subdomains carrying less authority, when using the free hosting subdomain - compared to a subdomain on Wordpress.com, etc. However, part of me thinks it might still work, but I don't really want to invest the time to 'try it' if someone else here has already done so and knows for certain that the results are poor.

    I imagine the results of using a subdomain of a free hosting site (low authority) would probably be the same as if I just registered 50 brand new .com's and made a blog network out of them. Sure, they don't have PR but if I post content regularly and update them enough over the course of around 2 months, I am sure they would pick up some authority. So yes, they wouldn't start out with any - but I still feel as if it would work well for ranking. Really just hoping someone has done it already and can say whether the results were still somewhat decent.

    I just stumbled upon this thread here:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...network-100-niche-related-tested-working.html

    I didn't read it yet, but it looks like (from a glance) I will be able to use free hosting on authority subdomains. Check it out if you like, you'll understand better when you read it. It allows you to use already existing authority domains instead of the free hosting providers subdomain.

    +rep.
     
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    stinkingrich Regular Member

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    OP, you idea is great and it should work well. I tried something similar with WPMU blogs and Link Farm Evolution long back and it used to work really well. However, I see that lately you are better off buying aged high PR domains and host them yourself on some shared hosting to get diverse IPs. This doesnt cost much per site and they are longer lasting and protected from being spammed. And the results are fantastic
     
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    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hi FilthyRich :p

    I'd like to think the idea is great, too. The WPMU idea would be awesome because the sites would be a lot easier to automate, compared to automating many unique platforms that update often. I'll need to take another look in to WPMU to see if it is viable at all, but at this stage I think I should avoid them.

    The only thing I see against buying high PR domains is that soon enough, it gets too expensive to maintain. For example, the way I see it is like this. Say I want to do some offline lead generation (which I have done before). I can build 50 dental sites targeting various suburbs/towns and build a big blog network of say 100 sites.

    I can then make those 100 sites only dental related and therefore making backlinks from the blog network very valuable for the money sites.

    If I then also wanted to go in and do lead gen for another industry, I'd have to repeat this with another set of 100 blogs all on the topic of the new industry.

    Add in my two current (and likely to grow) ecommerce sites, and that's another say 50 to 100 blogs each.

    All of this adds up in terms of yearly domain costs. Add in the hassle of finding enough IP's to host on (and signing up / paying multiple companies for hosting) and it starts to make me question if there is a better alternative. This is where I think a large web 2.0 blog network is a good idea. RankWYZ.com does exactly what I am talking about here, but I am experimenting with its success rate when it comes to posting articles on the accounts. My last test showed that results were not that great and hence not a reliable enough service for me. I am testing it again now with 27 different web 2.0 blog platforms, to see how many of those it can accurately post to.

    If it does well, the problem is likely to be solved. If not, I might have to consider making my own bot in Zenno (lots of work) or seek an alternative solution!

    +rep added, good info.
     
  13. ritesh

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    Well am using http://freedns.afraid.org/domain/registry/ for quite sometime.
    Just filter the domains before you use them most of the good one are deindexed.
    I use hostnine reseller plan which gives around 30 C class ips. I have 2 sites per IP.
    But as these sites have same DNS which is a big footprint it might get hit or not pass enough link juice. I Use them basically to build by tier 1.5/2 to be on the safer side.
     
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    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks for pointing that out. Yes, I just realised they all have the same NS. If they didn't, then that would be awesome.. get SEO hosting, get subdomains and essentially it's a very low cost operation.

    The moment you start adding in your own domains, costs start to Skyrocket. Especially .coms. I am not earning enough at this point to be able to warrant that type of expenditure.

    I wonder if there are other free subdomain solutions where all the NS won't be the same!
     
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    .tk/.co.nr/me.cc/co.cc etc are free domains that provide DNS as well.
     
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    I would be wary of using free hosting as your websites would be in the same neighbourhood of spammy porn and viagra domains.