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Autoblogs - Why so much BS about them?

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by jvmarket, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. jvmarket

    jvmarket Regular Member

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    After spending a fair amount of time reading the posts in this forum and others I'm absolutely amazed at the bullshit that people are spewing as truth. I like blogs, they are pretty easy to set up and if you spend a bit of time in the beginning they can be maintenance free.

    The problem is there are people on here saying it takes 20 minutes to set up a blog and in a week you'll be making a buttload of money. Then there are the scammers on here who claim they will set up the perfect blog for you and you wont need to anything and you'll start making money...they even post their "FAKE" screen shots of all the money they make as "PROOF" of their guruness.

    Time for a little reality check...

    1st - if it was easy we would all be very rich and seeing as how 90% - 95% of the people on this forum have not made a dime in their IM careers ... "IT AINT EASY"

    2nd - though throwing up a blog is a fairly simple process learning how to make it convert takes time and testing

    3rd - plugins are great...if you know how the hell to use them, if you don't they just piss you off.

    4th - content is KING ... read this again ... "CONTENT IS KING" real content, not shitty content. (yes you can automate the process)

    5th - how the hell are you going to get traffic to your new cash machine? contrary to popular belief...you really should promote your blog.

    6th - I can build two blogs exactly the same for two different people...one will make money from it the other wont...why is that? We'll talk about that later.

    I'm not the "EXPERT" on autoblogs...we've built quite a few, had some deindexed by google, made some money with others (still making money with them). We have done a lot of testing of various plugins and monetization models and found a few things that seem to work well. Are there better techniques than what we are using now...sure there are, that's why we test.

    As the world around us changes so do the techniques that work...keyword stuffing use to work well...now you get lost in obscurity if you try that.


    Here is a quick checklist to start the creative process:

    1) select a niche based on your keyword research

    2) purchase a domain relevant to your niche

    3) get you hosting set up

    4) install wp blog

    5) change the theme

    6) install your plugins

    7) add content (manually or automatically)

    8) determine how you want to monetize

    9) promote your blog

    10) add more content

    11) promote your new content

    12) Hopefully you see the theme here......

    My partner and I were talking about some of the shit that is on this and other forums when it comes to blogging. She suggested I write a guide...lol Every time I start bitching about something that's her solution.

    But for the past couple of days I've been giving it some thought. I found people willing to set up autoblogs for as little as $75 and as high as $250 but the problem is...once they are set up what the hell do you do with them?

    What happens when the UAW plugin starts messing up...how do you fix it. Where do you learn to find banner ads if that's what you what to do...how do you test 15 or 20 banners?

    Lot of damn questions...and guess what, the answers change from time to time...ain't that a pisser.

    So back to the guide....what I decided to do was go back through the posts I've made here and on other forums and see how much info I've already put out and see about condensing it into a guide.

    I may put together a package to sell to BHW members only....I'm not going to insult you by saying there are only 50 packages available...then sell 200 of them...that shit pisses me off...if we decide to do that you will be able to get one or ten whenever you want.

    I have no idea how much it will cost yet...not even sure what it will include.

    But....If you want to know what plugins I'll use or how I'm going to set it up I'll be happy to tell you....FOR FREE that way you can build your own blogs and you don't have to pay us to do it.

    Before you spend anymore money or try some hairbrain idea....ask yourself a simple question

    DOES THIS MAKE SENSE....

    If it does not then dont do it....lol if it does make sense...ask someone else if it makes sense to them...(takes your wishful thinking out of the question)

    Now...for those of you who want to know how much money you can make with your new autoblog....I DON'T HAVE A FREAKING CLUE

    That depends on soooooooooo many factors...you may make $1 a day or maybe $100 a day depends on the niche...keywords targeted....content...how well your new blog is promoted and so on. No you wont make $100/day the first month!

    I've seen this question many times....even been asked it a few times. How much do you make with your blogs....my answer...NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS. I've been doing this close to five years now...that's all I'm going to say on the matter.

    I guess that's enough for me tonight....if you want help...I'll try and help you. If you want me to do it for you...you will have to pay me....lol
     
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  2. death_note

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    I give it 3 month before everyone is off to 'The Next Big Thing'.
     
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  3. deth_by_uv

    deth_by_uv Power Member

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    Good, I hope everyone jumps on the next thing because they left a lot on the table in my opinion.

    jvmarket, I didn't quite read your post clearly regarding if you're trying to sell a guide in the future or are opening up a Q & A here?
     
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    Do note most of the people on this board that aren't making money are the people that jump from popular method to popular method. Popular method being the next big thing as some of you call it. Its the people that stick with one till they master it and then work on a second one and build accordingly into multiple streams of income. This is something I think many of you will understand if you think about it.


    Cheers
     
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    Thanks for your rant. Those same things piss me off. Unfortunately thats what sells stuff.
    I would be interested in learning more about autoblogs.
     
  6. deth_by_uv

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    I setup my first, test autoblog a couple weeks ago and it gets about 20 uniques a day with absolutely no promotion whatsoever, but no revenue due to the shitty rewriting plugin I'm using and most definitely the theme as I look at it more and more. At least I think that's what the problem is.

    But to me, the BS is in the inability for people who have no idea on how to do keyword research and other real basic stuff are flooding these threads with useless questions that pretty much kill the info sharing.

    Just like with cookie stuffing, the fucking newbie bullshit kills it and they kill method after method with idiotic comments and blind action. Action is good, but blindly...please take that long walk off a short plank - thank!

    It is a toss up with BHW with keeping doors open/closed to public registrations. I'm just tired of seeing threads start out good, but here comes the fuckers...

    "Keyword research? when do I do that?"

    "Can you tell me how to install this plugin?"

    "What is FTP?"

    "Thanks, this is really good information I'm starting right now."

    God, just shut the fuck up and use Google and a thanks button instead of congesting a good thread with is 18/20 pages of "thanks, you're awesome for that share" and "What is fantastico?"
     
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  7. corgi

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    you do the math, and tell me...what's the CTR and income from all of these?
     
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    It is a very old concept.
     
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  9. jvmarket

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    If I do the guide it will be free....

    Questions are always welcome...If I don't have an answer someone will

    The issue with all theses so called new money making techniques is that they don't contain "ALL" the information you need to make it work. There is always something left out....some minor little thing that makes all the difference. Newbies try their hand at the magic money making technique they dont make money in a week or two...they quit (some of this id due to the false expectations created by the sellers of the project & some of it is caused by ADD...lol)

    yep autoblogs do work....I have one the gets about 2500 uniques a month does about $90/month in adsense and $200+/month in affiliate sale. But......here is the secret no one talks about....the blog is set up as a mini site with the actual blog set up in the background which funnels the visitors thru the site the way I want them to travel.

    As for quoting traffic stats...

    When we use Squidoo to promote my blogs I expect to get a CTR of 50%....thats right 50% of the people who hit my lens end up on my blogs. (what does they tell you about squid as a traffic source)

    When we use Ezinearticles to promote my blogs I expect to get a CTR of 10%-15%

    Our feeder blogs usually send about 20% of the traffic on to the money site. So if I use the above example of 6000 uniques/month I would expect to see 1200 visitors to my money site. If my adsense has an average CTR of 5% at $0.50 per click that would equal .... drumbrollllllllllllllll please $30

    Not the exact monetization model I would use but now you have an idea of what to expect.

    j
     
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    like always under any thing which involve BH the main factor is to test ( to test and to see what exactly can work for someone in particular ) .... for example even if I tested loads of things over the time , I`m not familiar with joomla for example but I like wordpress , like that simply like that is your first post from there ... everything is about what peoples getting useful and what not . Reading what others have to say and '' filter '' the information which you can get from them , adapt them for your needs ... that's the point
     
  11. jvmarket

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    I was looking at some of my blogs today...seeing how much they were generating and if there was a way to improve them. As I was going through the different blogs we have it occurred to me that most people who start out blogging have no idea what to expect where it concerns revenue.

    If you read on this forum and many others its easy to get the impression that you can throw up an autoblog and you'll start making $5 or $10 a day per blog. If you look at my previous post you'll notice that one of my blogs generates about $290/month or just under $10/day.

    It you're like I was when we started blogging you would be excited as hell to make $10/day. The truth is that if you build blogs like you see most of the people on here and other forums talking about you are not going to make anywhere near that much. Our typical autoblogs make about $1-$2/day.

    But for that $1-$2/day I dont really have to do anything else. Set it up..do a little bit of link building then let it do its thing.

    Our blogs that make close to the $10-$15/day require a little more effort on our part. The we do automatically generate the content but we tweak it a bit before it gets posted and we spend a few minutes every week building back links to the blog to help promote it. All total we spend about $3/day to make $10-$15/day.

    We also sell affiliate products on these blogs which helps bring up the daily revenue for these blogs. The blogs the generate the best income are targeted to a specific niche.

    After a short period of time our blogs normally get a PR2 or PR3. We use this to help prop up some of our other money sites. This is the true power behind what we are doing. We're getting paid to build our network of blogs.

    Before you start to build a blog...ask yourself...what exactly do I expect my new blog to do? When you figure that out and you start to lay out your plan...ask yourself....does what I'm doing make sense...will it help me reach my goal.

    That's about it for tonight...I've started gathering everything I've written the past year or so and plan to start working on the guide next week. In the meantime...those of you who would like to take a look at an affiliate offer that does well for us...checkout Mr. Rebates its a sharesale product...it pays a $1 per signup....all it takes is an email address :)

    Now....you can't say that nobody will tell you what product they are promoting
     
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    you are exactly right in what you say. I have been saying they same things.

    Like you I hate the way when you get these info packs or instructions on how to create a blog or anything else, there always seems to be something missing. What these people do is they know it but for get the little things that matter to someone else so they can get a same ( or close) result.

    Thanks for this post. Brilliant
     
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    Hi jvmarket!

    Thanks for the thread and thanks for the bs-free look at blogging as a business model. Its nice to read the facts after so much fluff.

    If you read all the threads on BHW on autoblogging (and I think I have) you come away with lots of good ideas and methods, but the reality is that each person has to try something on their own, succeed a little, fail a lot, learn, adjust and start over one step closer to the goal.

    Like any business, some will succeed and most will fail, that's just the way it is. At least with blogging, the cost to start-up is fairly minimal and the greatest investment is time.

    Good thread, good posts! Keep up the great work and share more when you get a chance! (Couple of thanks and +rep.)

    Cheers! :)
     
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    300!!!!
    How long does it take you to make a blog.
    Did you do keyword research for each one; or are they all in the same niche?
    did you buy domains for all?




     
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    There are some ( and I am not going to promote them in here) automated systems that you pay a monthly subscription for.
    they can set up 1 domain for each keyword and 49 subdomains for 49 other Keywords.
    They take all of 20 mins to make these 50.
    they all eventually get banned by google but they do make money.

    I used to use one of these but they blew out my hosting real bad and the owner of the software sucked. as long as he was getting you money he was happy.. Wouldnt help you either.

    So making 300 blogs in a day is easy if you have the right software to mass produce them
     
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    I got a couple questions via PM last night...I'll try to answer them tonight or tomorrow. In the meantime here is a screenshot on our process for promoting our blogs and money sites.

    This is just an outline of what we do not the exact steps...also, missing on it is senuke which we have integrated into our system.

    If you're wondering how well it works....some of the niches we've entered we've owned as many as 17 of the top 20 search results...it's not always that good (wish it was) on average we can get the top 6 or 7 of the top 10 results.

    The process is not cheap...if you look at the screenshot you'll notice quite a few tools that are not free. These are the things that give us an advantage over our competitors.

    In case you're wondering why i would give you our process...

    First - I like to give back...over the years I've been given a lot of help

    Second - We are in different niches

    Third - Even if we're not in different niches, we've got a head start so you'll be hard pressed to catch us :nana: ( I know...thats childish...lol)

    Forth - You need to know what you are competing with, though there are not many who do they are some of us and we can be hard to compete with.

    Time for me to go play...
     

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    I got a couple questions via PM last night...I'll try to answer them tonight or tomorrow. In the meantime here is a screenshot on our process for promoting our blogs and money sites.

    This is just an outline of what we do not the exact steps...also, missing on it is senuke which we have integrated into our system.

    If you're wondering how well it works....some of the niches we've entered we've owned as many as 17 of the top 20 search results...it's not always that good (wish it was) on average we can get the top 6 or 7 of the top 10 results.

    The process is not cheap...if you look at the screenshot you'll notice quite a few tools that are not free. These are the things that give us an advantage over our competitors.

    In case you're wondering why i would give you our process...

    First - I like to give back...over the years I've been given a lot of help

    Second - We are in different niches

    Third - Even if we're not in different niches, we've got a head start so you'll be hard pressed to catch us :nana: ( I know...thats childish...lol)

    Forth - You need to know what you are competing with, though there are not many who do they are some of us and we can be hard to compete with.

    Time for me to go play...
     
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    sorry about the double post...seems I had an issue this morning...I would delete it but I cant..feel free to get rid of the second one...it doesn't have the attachment

    j
     
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    question: SE nuke, do you have a nulled version? I assume you actually pay for it though. If you have any knowledge of the nulled version on these forums could you help me install it, I am having some difficulty.

    Thanks
     
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