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Authority Websites - Link Velocity vs Posting Velocity.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spectrejoe, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Hello guys, I present you a very difficult question and wondered if any of you have tested this already.

    As you all known Multi Niche websites / Authority websites are long term money makers, however they barely make us a single dollar the first few months. So my question is:

    If I post several new HQ posts every day on my authority website (2-5 articles daily all 300+ words each at least) can I make more backlinks to it since it also has a lot more content?

    Like:

    Website 1:
    1 week old
    1 Landing Page.

    Website 2:
    1 week old
    30 Pages with unique HQ articles with 300-500+ words.


    Will website 2 be able to receive more backlinks without the risk of being penalized?




    PS: Also what should be the ratio of backlinks that you should build to your homepage and internal pages? (like 3 homepage 1 internal or 5 homepage 1 internal)
     
  2. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    No1 can answer this :c?
     
  3. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Come on, surely someone has some experience on this..
     
  4. xha44a

    xha44a Power Member

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    I can't answer this question but I can give you something somewhat related.

    http://www.quicksprout.com/2013/12/02/how-to-grow-your-blog-to-100000-visits-a-month-in-18-months/

    This guy found that posting frequency had a big impact on his traffic (via serps), so posting more is better automatically. Even without backlinks several high quality posts on your website will do wonders (based on his test).

    That said, if I had to guess, I would say the answer is YES. It would make sense to me that building more back links to a website with more content would be natural, if accompanied with social signals. Based on my gut, rather than any kind of data of course - so make your own call on this.
     
  5. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Yea that's exactly my point, however I'm not sure how google reacts to that and how many is too many. Really would love to see an input from someone from BHW that tried this or something
     
  6. irdeto

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    It's very unlikely that your theory would be a wise path to follow unless this is a churn and burn site.

    If you consider the general lifespan of a website...New websites don't tend to have huge readership so the idea that your 1 week old website is somehow managing to engage links (shares) so quickly would raise a flag to me.

    If I had to think like a search engine then I would want to correlate your sudden popularity with a social signal (i.e., you own a fan page that has thousands of fans that are fully engaged with your brand and you have just launched a website). If your traffic and shares are a result of a social signals like the scenario i have mentioned then it is probably safe to believe that your link building and shares are real.

    My advice - Slow and steady! Rome wasn't built in a day (as they say)

    All too often people throw around the phrase 'high quality posts' - there is a huge difference between high quality posts created for SEO efforts and high quality posts aimed at readers to engage with your content.

    I have legit websites where i create content out of passion and they far FARRRRRR outperform my SEO-centric sites.

    If your content is high quality enough you will experience lots of natural sharing (natural link building). That is my experience anyway.
     
  7. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Yea that's what I wanna do however I wanted to do some link building aswell which is why I needed to have at least a ratio on how many daily backlinks to build, when to build them to inner pages etc
     
  8. sudorank

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    I know it's a PITA to wait for an authority site to get going but it's worth it. Please don't get sucked into trying to get your authority site to shine before its time, all your good work so far will go to waste if you're v&nned for it.

    If you're working in a specific niche you know is profitable have you considered building your authrity sites up and also running burner sites to get the cash flowing in quickly?
     
  9. spectrejoe

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    I was planning on monetizing mostly from adsense and cpa on the site. I could do that however I'm not sure how good the conversion would be for landing page websites in whitehat niches. Also I'm building a authority website without being focused on specific niches, homepage will be a "company alike" domain/kw and then the posts will be the targets for keywords.
     
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    i think the page which has low bounce rate will get less penalty....
     
  11. StraussCan

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    You sure look like an SEO n00b who doesn't pay attention to the SERPs.

    Look at big authority sites, whenever they post content their social shares and inbound links velocity goes up. Only build backlinks when you post some new content and get some social signals, if possible, too.
     
  12. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    No shit. But they are in the business for years, they have aged domains and google already has them as high authority websites which means that even if they do BH SEO they won't get penalized unless they go out of bondaries and make a few millions links per post. Same thing does not apply to new domains.
     
  13. raghav

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    I will explain my personal exp, may or may not work for others.

    If the site is in a broad niche, I would post 2-5 posts a day and quality is most important. Not some garbage. If you can post well researched articles, 3-5 per week can also make a difference. The thing is - what keywords are you targeting and how well the articles are written. You don't actually need any link building if you can do this probably, a few social shares would do the job. If you are targeting tough keywords, you can slowly build links after a week of posting the articles.

    This works for me personally.
     
  14. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Will try doing just that.

    Think that a like locker would be good?

    Give them half the article and for them to see the other half they would need to Like so that the text shows
     
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    That velocity crap is all straight BS, sorry to disappoint you OP. You build useful content, the type that makes your visitor say "hey, let me show so-an-so this article." That builds the best ironclad backlinks known to man. For-real.. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!! :D
     
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    How much you post and how much you backlink have nothing to do with each other.

    If you build good links you're going to get good results period. If you build shit links you're going to get crappy results period.

    I'm tired of this link velocity bullshit. It only comes down to good or bad links.

    If I could get 10,000,000 good links all at once to a site I finished building 1 hr ago I'd take it.

    Likewise it won't matter if you're posting 100 pages a day if you're building shit links.
     
  17. djw1606

    djw1606 Regular Member

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    Getting back to your original question.

    Yes you can build more links to website 2 as given in your example. Google doesn't rank websites, it ranks web pages. Each page of your site is treated separately.

    But as mentioned above by others, it is important that you build good quality links.
     
  18. StraussCan

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    What I said is the most natural simulation of an event. This creates the appearance that your articles are getting shared and you're an authority.
     
  19. DiggitySEO

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    Your answer has been summed up by the previous posters.

    I can concur as I have experience in this exact thing. In order to pull it off, you need to social signals to 'justify' the backlinks. But also, the older the domain is, the better. Realistically, new sites are very unlikely to go viral, which is what you're trying to simulate in a small scale.

    Just one thing to add. Although I've pulled this off before, I hardly ever do it. Reason being: there is such a huge upfront investment without any proof of return. If this authority site targets keywords that you've already gone after before and have seen successfully monetized then go for it. I just don't like to go all in before proof that it will come back to me.