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Authority domain 301 redirect, how long until you see results?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by RuthSam, Dec 19, 2014.

  1. RuthSam

    RuthSam Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well I have bought aprox 50 Expired domains all with BL from NYTimes, CNN, BBC and other high authority sites and from different sellers.

    Now I have made a 301 redirect to all of them to the money site, do you know how long it should take before you see if that had any impact / result at all?

    Thanks for any advise.
     
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    You should see the results within a week at the most. It may take even longer if most if not all those expired domains are not indexed. You should've get them indexed first before 301. Try pinging them with mass ping tool.
     
  3. SteveWaller

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    In my own experience, I have never seen great results from mass 301s, or any 301s for that matter. I tried it a couple of times and always ended up boosting things with actual links from one of my PBNs - you lose out on getting the direct linking juice with PBNs, but you get so much more instead including being able to use anchor text and the ability to put the link within relevant content. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    That many 301s? You should watch this video.



    .......just kidding. 301s seem to be the way now. Looking forward to your update with results.
     
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    Thanks for the input, I will update this thread once (if) I see any results. Do you think rebuilding the site for each domain and then linking to the Money site may be a better or more long term way of doing things?
     
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    Usually 4-7 days. Could vary a bit based on crawl rate for the particular domains.
     
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    That's called a PBN, and they're known to bring safer results.
     
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    Thank you for letting me know. I already thought it was a PBN however, do you think a PBN is better than a 301 redirect? What's your sorts?

     
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    PBN = longterm, 301 = short term. However, depends on how you will use it and how you will invest in it.
     
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    When you redirect from registrar level it usually, in my case, takes about 2/3 weeks to see anny effect. The redirect pops then in ahrefs in 2/3 weeks.

    But I would defenitially rebuild the domains en block every crawler in htaccess file so that it is harder for conpetitors to see your incoming 301 links. But I would do this only on an well aged domain with decent backlinks.

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  11. RuthSam

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    Yes I read that rebuilding the website for this particular domain will be better than just do a 301 redirect.
     
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    You should see the first results coming in a week or so.

    Interested to hear the end result here, keep us posted.
     
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    Thanks, sure will keep you posted. I do hope this will have any positive impact on the money site :)
     
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    Agent Blackhat here.

    If you want the best chance at succeeding you need a proper strategy.

    I'll try keep this short and sweet. Simply buying up a ton of domains and 301ing them as soon as you can is not as successful anymore. If you're going to have a crack at the 301 you need to thrash out a proper strategy first so that you're not going in blind.

    The first thing you should do is read my OLD guide on BHW here.

    That was years ago now and things have gotten harder.

    I believe that Google is diminishing the power of buying up expired domains from auctions. However there are ways or getting around this and it all comes down to trying to reestablish the domain's trust.

    The 301 technique works best with really old sites which have been laying around for months or even years. Buying domains from auctions or registering expired domains can be risky since Google knows that it cant trust the domain since it has been transferred to a new owner.

    So what i've done in the past is to buy an expired domain from a reputable source(GoDaddy doesn't work well for this imo). I assume the domain will have some good links on it and no spam at all. Then you want to upload a blog or something with pages of content, you could also reupload the old site by scraping it from waybackmachine but I have a feeling Google is catching onto this as it is used a lot for making PBNs.

    Now let the domain sit for 1-3 months, every week or few weeks add some new content to the blog, don't add any external links(important!).

    After this time Google's filter/algo will begin to trust the site a lot more than when you first bought it and it may begin to pass more power. You're now ready to fire up the 301s and point the domains somewhere.

    This is only one step in the process. There are many ways you can use a 301 and it completely depends on what you're aiming to achieve in understanding how to proceed.

    So what I want to get across to you people today is not so much "how to get 301s to work" but to "think about the overall strategy and what you are trying to achieve" before you go buying 50 domains.

    BTW, the mods here don't like me much so unfortunately I can't point you to my own projects/properties which would help you with your work, sorry fellas.
     
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    This guy said it very well. With so many 301 redirects, you wouldn't pass a manual review, it's unnatural.

     
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    301s take 2-3weeks, always!!

    Only 1-3 of them will count. Google has a way of seeing this. I have done this a few times.


    You need to create Multiple landing pages forward them to the landing pages. Also a YOUTUBE vid if you have one.


    50 redirects to one main page, your asking Google to come check your stuff. That's allot way too many. I tried 30 before. It did not work. I would say two to three at the most. Also did you do the 301s VIA .htaccess???
     
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    Its way beyond unnatural. I do think OP is aiming for churn and burn here so we expect to see the site die after a period of time.
     
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    do update us about the changes after indexing !
     
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    Okay okay, got to the point now... thanks for your great help "gorang" I went to the registrar and removed all the 301 redirects I set up for the 50 domains. So now I will spend some time to rebuild some of them and also as you suggested upload some new wordpress blog to them let them stick for 2 months or so and then put a link on each. Hopefully that will work better.

    The money site is more than 6 years old and the domain more than 10 Years and has a very high TF/DA so I don't think it will hurt the site, but it seems the 301 has also no effect.

    Will still update you here on the progress... :)
     
  20. laur.laurix

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    50 301 redirects in a short period of time? U dont have to be an expert to see that what u are doing is wrong. Just use common sense. Also for bettr rankings make those sites related to ur money site. Link around 60-70 from the home page and the rest from inner page. Drip feed the links and mix it with other form of links (blogs, forum, etc). Send some social signal while u make this link to mimic a voral website. Works for me every time.