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Ashley Answering To Michel (stalker) Attention All Newbies Must Read!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ASHLEY_LOVES_U, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. ASHLEY_LOVES_U

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    Wow let see, it started right from the start when i've joined this forum. Am I real? Or Am I a spammer? A porn bot? I have a lot of post yes,,,and that is because I was over at the Syndik*8 and got my ass chewed cuz I wanted to learn ,,,so I was reading alot and posting alot and didn't want to give any advice way too much due to not wanting to mislead or giving any wrong advice to anyone. Now I'm getting shit for not helping the forum? You're joking right? MICHEL?? Well you know what? You want one? YOU GOT ONE!!! FIRST OFF I'm a newbie, infact so new that I haven't made any money yet as a matter of fact, I'VE LOST MONEY...there I bet you're laughing now rnt ya? As a matter of fact me a SENIOR MEMBER? PLEASE TAKE IT AND RIP THAT TO PIECES I don't deserve that and you should should take that up with the admin. I really shouldn't have any star really but I don't control that. Since I know you've been stalking me and my post So I am going to post here to help noobies like me.

    Since there is no way i'm in a position to be enlighting anyone here. First off just by curiousity I heard about BH marketing. I have a friend that have been making money and of course like any BH marketer he got his adsense actually almost banned. To make a long story short I went over to some other forum and not much help there. All or any advice is read read read read. Puking,,vomit!! So I stumblied here to this forum and instantly knew that this is a much cooler forum. Much easier going. I've made some friends here and Frivvy have been the coolest cat here who helped me alot. (can't give you his real name tho). So I've posted where I think I can help. I am learning to use some of these software that I've gotten from here and asking alot of questions infact to the point of that I actually dreamt that I'm here typing away. LOL. Occasionally from time to time I will stop learning the software and read some good postings here and got long winded and read up some more about which cloaker works or which method work yada yada yada. I mean seriously you can actually read for a year in here. So i chose to use free hosting accounts since I am pretty broke. Frivvy helped me got the Blog Solution up and running and now some blogs are actually getting indexed. Any sale yet? NO not yet. I did not know that ADSENSE prohibit any and all tobacco products. So my only way to make money with that is an affiliate program to sell those cheap cigarettes online. Well guess what? I learned that it is pretty hard to sell those cigarettes online,,perhaps not a good niche? Or just me being so new that I have to drive alot more traffic to make it work? Only I would know (intime) What i'm really trying to say to all of you newbies is this...just read very very lightly but really implement the techniques yourself. I had the same questions like all newbies did WHICH CLOAKER? WILL I GET BAN FROM ADSENSE? WHICH TECHNIQUES THE BEST? WILL MY DOMAIN GET BAN? These are some of the questions that I know the noobs like me have and the answer is this: IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR NICHE AND YOUR TECHNIQUE. Thats it. So try it for yourself that is what I'm saying. Just because some experienced BHter got ban doesn't mean you will. You might just get a warning first. Depending on your niche and what you're selling. Some might say oh free hosting and free domain won't work...TRY IT FOR YOURSELF to see if it works or not..(that is what I'm actually doing). So far x10hosting.com been working. So again don't read too much into it....NEWBIES go ahead and try it for yourself to see what is your results. As for me I have made a huge mistake in the beginning by reading way way too much and it is becoming analysis of paralysis type thing. DON'T WASTE TIME LIKE I DID. Read up real quick ,,see if you can get the downloads,,,and JUST DO IT....

    p.s. Michel I hope this show you that I do contribute to this forum. STOP STALKING ME,,,j/k:)
     
  2. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    this is pretty sad.
     
  3. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    when i first came, i had bad thoughts about michel, but as i advanced from a noob i begin to see she is cool
     
  4. wealthy199

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    ha ha ha ha, Michel's a guy xXKingdom_SEOXx.
     
  5. Ruck

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    I have responded to this in another thread but I don't think calling out Michel's name in a thread title is appropriate. He wasn't stalking you even though your kidding. Michel has a sense of aggressiveness much like myself, Luther13z, essential_clix, diabolik, and many others. You shouldn't get so worked up, just respond politely. As for Michel's post in the other thread, I think it was blown out of proportion and I responded to it. That's the way he posts...to the point.

    All he was doing was trying to educate you on some proper forum etiquette which is a heck of a lot better than having someone like me or another mod coming and barking. Some other members stepped up as well provided valuable responses and that's what we expect.

    This is not going to be some lame flame war whenever you introduce yourself or ask a question like in other forums, but you had better bet your ass that some of the forum members here are going to be very direct and even question your credibility in public. If this is something someone cannot handle, than I would advise to not even joining up. This forum is evolving rapidly and I don't even have enough time to welcome new members as opposed to making necessary forum changes. The other mods and admins are just as busy as the next guy so we rely on senior members to help do things that are necessary to keep the balance.

    So don't take offense rather just roll with the punches.

    As far as reading *2 much* at the beginning. My friend you have not even begun to read just yet and I can see that right from the response of what you have done already online. So hang in there, keep participating, practice forum etiquette and later on down the road when you start seeing success roll in, you'll probably realize that, the forum members here and that dickhead moderator were probably right when they jumped on your ass.
     
  6. frivvy89

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    Coolest Cat, I might change my name to that:)
     
  7. antx16

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    if you are feeling a little down ashley just pm some of us i am sure a little chat will lift your spirits , and dont worry about nasty people real people will always try to help , there are some real nice people here , to name just 1 Rob the builder is a cool person
     
  8. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    OMG, WOW, really, or are you just pulling my leg?/? :rolleyes:!
     
  9. milligan

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    Good one Ashley that is a contribution. There will be always someone junior to you who has just started in this business so anything you learn and post about will help.

    As to reading too much I think you are half right. Yes you do need to do but first you need to know what you are doing. Read heaps, try some stuff, test, reconfiguring and try again. Then read more and repeat the whole process.

    You will get so much more respect in a forum like this when you come armed with test results from what you have already tried. Successful people here have already put more hours in than they'd like to mention and they wont give up what they learnt to people who want something for nothing.

    I wont bullshit. I entered this business because I am lazy and the way BH SEO is marketed is like it is money for jam. But since those early days you learn that you have to earn your stripes by putting in the hours (oh so many hours). And at each step there is always another hurdle to overcome. I guarantee after you learn some techniques that arent talked about much through hours and hours of research and testing you wont just give it up to some n00b becuase they asked.

    As for other forums where you need 2000 posts before they will stop pissing on you and giving smart ass repsonses to you legit questions, I agree with you. This place is helpful from the get go if you prove that you dont want the goose that lays the golden eggs becuase you batted your eyelids.

    The great thing about a place like this is that you are able to speak your mind as long as what you say is justified.
     
  10. wealthy199

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    Well you did say "but as i advanced from a noob i begin to see she is cool"
     
  11. titalian

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    I don't think personally you should get all worked up on it Ashley.

    And one thing i always believed, never show your weaknesses. They usually tend to end up being exploited.

    Theres 3 things you should keep in mind when dealing with IM. Trial and error(Lots of that), a natural born troubleshooter, and/or a very creative mind to build something unique for the web. This also stands in place for when people may have said to you "think outside the box". Meaning, what you may have read in ebooks or what not you can re-create the information in your own way(obviously knowing and being confident it would work). Anyhow im going off topic but in short words, realistically speaking, nobody will guide you by the hand every step of the way to achieve their success. Now I know you may say thats prude or mean of some people. However, in the end, have you ever met somebody deliver you free cash on a silver platter? I doubt that one.

    What anybody says should not bother you. Just look passed it. Just some of your own research and testing before asking or posting to the board every single time you need advice on something is where michel is kinda trying to get at( I believe).

    This industry consists of leaders more then followers. To be the leader you wish to be, you have to do what you gotta do(if that makes sense to you)

    You caught me on a better day it seems to share my opinions over drama. However, keep your cool, and hoping this was a lesson well learned on your behalf.

    Oh and don't expect to get pitty from people. Im sure everyone here has experienced their own losses in some way or another. Probably even bigger then yours. Trust me I'd know from my own personal experiences and others. The force be with you.
     
  12. Essential Clix

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    Well said.

    I think most people, at first, are too lazy to learn the underlying white hat methods that benefit from their black hat counterparts. That is why it is almost comical to see some newb come in flat-out ask "how do I cloak?", knowing good and damn well they've never even written a blog in their life. Because, if they did, they most likely would have used the search button...

    Don't expect people to be overly eager to help you out and hand over the keys to their business. Don't expect them to type up a 4-page explanation of how shit works, just because you took the time to ask. If you want help, earn people's respect, offer something in return, or expect them to tell you to STFU.
     
  13. ASHLEY_LOVES_U

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    I agree with all of you. And hopefully will be able to be IN or be PART OF THE CLUB. Believe me I am here to learn and DO IT YOURSELF type of attitude. On Thanx Giving my ass is here locked up in this room and 2 of my computers and Blackhatworld site is up. Ask Frivvy he will tell you. The reason for my post is obviously clarification. Also keep in mind that I had two guys wanted to marry me from this forum. So it is kinda hard trying to post like mad being a girl. But I got the picture and will show more in contributions. I am sticking to my guns and where the heck is MICHEL??? lol
     
  14. Ruck

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    HAHA,

    Who the fuck is trying to marry her? She's got work to do for christ sake, leave her alone. Ashley you got to be like 1000000X careful hooking up with dudes from a blackhat forum:)...

    In all serious, your doing great. Keep the head up. The ones who win are the persistent ones who don't take no for an answer.
     
  15. ASHLEY_LOVES_U

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    YEAP that is me. Lol by the way Ruck you're into mustangs? Blackhatter with a mustang,,,hmmm sexy.
     
  16. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    lol, a woman blackhatter in a mustang hmmmmmmmm very sexy. (excuse me for budging in your ask to ruck, i just wanted to say that (lol). :p
     
  17. titalian

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    ohhhhhhhhhhhhh LOVE is in the air! Live at BHW
     
  18. Nick Flame

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    He is married, or at least engaged. Take care.
     
  19. xXKingdom_SEOXx

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    lol, dude you burst Ashley's fantasy j/k, she probaly was just making a point :)
     
  20. ASHLEY_LOVES_U

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    Thank you Kindom,,,yes i am MAKING A POINT.

    I have to becareful what I say. I guess cuz im a girl.hehe