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Article Uniqueness Question???

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Getwhatchuwant, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. Getwhatchuwant

    Getwhatchuwant Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Hopefully you guys can help out.

    In regards to unique articles if I were to copy a 200 word product review then add another 200 words to the article on my own would that then mean it is 50% unique? Finally if I spin the original product review or article would that then add to the uniqueness provided I add my own summary too?

    I am just trying to figure out if google can recognize articles that are not unique but embellished upon.


    Finally, if you take 2 copied articles and turn it into one larger article will google recognize that indeed it is 2 copied articles or would it think it is one article that is 50% unique..

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    hmmm this one sat on BHW all day and no one answered.... anyone?
     
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    I have an authority site that is a product sales website. Every article starts with a unique review by me. Around half the articles contain product reviews (and sometimes there are a LOT of reviews ... where the reviews outweigh the intro 5 to 1).

    As long as you have a unique intro on each page, it doesn't matter if you have duplicate content. All my pages get good traffic, none are penalized. Now ... I do have websites that are 100% duplicate content. They don't rank for squat. So the intro is definitely what saves the page.

    If you think about it, many popular blogs exist that do nothing but find cool stuff, give a little intro and repost excerpts of other people. There's nothing wrong at all with that.

    Duplicate content mixed with fresh content is fine, even as good as 100% unique. Only duplicate content will get your site deindexed or major penalties.
     
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    copyscape or at least 70% unique and you wold be safe in my opinion so dont just change words , change sentences as much as you can too
     
  5. wolf1880

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    You can manually check each sentence of your article in google. If Google returns results which contains most of the words in your sentence, then you need to spin that sentence a bit more. From what I heard, Google penalizes even if it finds just specific paragraphs in your site copied from other sites.
     
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    By the way, that Google reviewers handbook manual that was leaked recently had a portion of it that told reviewers not to penalize people for duplicate content if it is relevant and useful to the post.
     
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    10O% Copyscape passed is my preference.
     
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    PHP what would you say the threshold is for uniqueness? In other words google and its employees are likely not reviewing all sites like yours, so what do you think the uniqueness % threshold is using their standard algo for ranking your site?

    +rep for probably being the only one who read my OP :)
     
  9. Kaithe.Clarke

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    Well... If you are spinning the final content it may turn into unique piece of content but the quality of article would be less good.

    Its good to proofread the content before publishing it so that it delivers good user experience.
     
  10. Getwhatchuwant

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    Kaithe, I hand spin the articles using spin master pro so they are all readable and I select the synonyms I want to use.
     
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    Well I think you're not asking the right question you should be asking lol. I'll explain how I think you should look at it and at the end I'll explain why dupe content or not doesn't really apply.

    There are probably many different ways of being successful with a product site. My particular way ...

    I hunt down keywords that are related to my niche. I try to avoid exact product names, I like to focus on target categories. For instance, instead of listing an exact name of an air conditioner and model number and trying to rank for that, I try to rank for the "category" it would normally be under, and then make a clickbait title ... "Top 5 energy efficient air conditioners that pay for themselves".

    There are many reasons for this.

    One reasion ... if someone is looking for an exact model of a product, EVERYONE tries to rank for product names. You'll be competing with amazon.com who will almost always be #1. Putting product name and model number in the title and h1 tags are (by default) what everyone does. You're going to have a very difficult time ranking for specific products.

    Another reason ... someone searching for a specific model doesn't shop around. Someone who knows the exact model number they want are clicking on #1 and that's the only place they're going.

    Now ... if they're not searching for exact model, but instead for general category, that means they don't know what they want. They're shopping around. They very well may check out every one of the top 10 results, and every one of the teens as well.

    Here is where the sensational title helps you ... someone shopping because they don't know what they want ... then they click through to your page because you're going to help them (condensing the best 5 into one article, you're making their searching job easy).

    That should be your goal, to make those kinds of pages. They should be mostly unique, but if you put in a few product reviews it should be ok. I would normally (on the "top 5 air conditioners" have 5 more pages, each page representing each one of the 5 ... and they would be heavy with duplicate content. Those pages do get some traffic, but 90% of my money pages are the grouped/condensed review pages.

    That duplicate content has a place on your site ... product reviews convince people to buy. You're not really getting penalized for them, those pages will still rank (even for the exact product name) and you'll get some traffic on them. But they are not the important pages to me, the important ones are the 1k, 2k, 3k + exact search per month keyword articles which are comparison pages, comparing a general category someone is searching for.

    Nobody generally optimizes for those general category (not specific product name) keywords. Sure, you'll see some micro niche sites chasing after them, but not authority sites.

    In summary, don't worry about duplicate content too much -- if you need some duplicate content to make your page the best it can be, put it in there. I don't know exact percentages of duplicate vs original and how they perform, I typically focus on just making a good page without thinking about it, and they perform pretty good.
     
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  12. johndea

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    Link please.
     
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    Good stuff from PHP. I have foud that the same thing holds true in my experience. A unique opening two paragraphs, minimal spin after that, and then a unique close seems to work for me.
     
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