Art Niche Instagram Journey

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by kantaenos, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. curiousguy44

    curiousguy44 Newbie

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    Oh so you run a personal art account, same here. I've always believed the quality of work will ultimately determine your cap of followers.
    Right now I only do likes around ~1200 a day, like you I have a personal qualm against follow, unfollow I'd feel it'd ruin my account.

    Could you give me tips on what to prioritize for likes to follow conversion (other than the obvious the quality of my work), I can inbox you my personal handle if you'd like.
     
  2. kantaenos

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    I've decided to start f/uf back up again, but this time at a rate where no one can tell unless they are anal enough to look me up on socialblade. Send me your profile. The first step in trying to optimize your efforts, I believe, is to maximize who even sees your follow/like. The reality is....if you follow 100 people...only some of them will even notice! Let alone look at your page!

    Exposure happens first and then content is second. Content isn't king imo. Its about getting your work in front of as many interested people, in a good light.

    Imagine if you could clone yourself 7 billion times and ask everyone on the planet what they think of your work in person, and if they wouldn't mind following you. You would have several thousand followers in an instant. If you actually do good, and popular art, then probably millions.
     
  3. kantaenos

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    Just wanted to update with my frustrations with Jarvee...

    Its mainly over the scrape users tool. I like to scrape my entire following in order to see exactly who is following me, and who I should ban, who is private...etc etc.

    BE CAREFUL when you use this>>>>

    It seems that when you scrape your following with it it taxes the IG servers alot. If you scrape your followers more than twice a day, I notice you get shadowbanned (like not able to use the app on your phone at all) for some time. It isn't really a block, it just says it cant load anything for no reason (hence the 'shadow' part.

    I also noticed, that if you set a limit to how many people you scrape, Jarvee will duplicate data in order to meet that exact number...which is so stupid. If I set a limit of 10k, and I have 9.6k followers...just stop at 9.6K! Don't duplicate random accounts to get to 10K! How tf do you even code that idk...

    And then finally, if you scrape your following, every fucking time...about 1% of the usernames will have data that will come up as all zeros...and if you try to select those usernames and re-scrape them individually, Jarvee will SKIP RANDOM ACCOUNTS and return a list of people less than what you put in, completely ruining the whole point of all this.
     
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  4. kantaenos

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    UPDATE:

    I recently paid $85 for two different types of shoutouts. The cheaper one seemed to bring wayy more engagement than the expensive one, even though they were both from the same account. I wont be telling what type it is because It seems crazy that the guy charges so much less for it. I won't be doing the regular shoutout types anymore. At the time of this posting I am estimating 1.1k+ total followers gained in about 20 hours of purchase. Only 10-20% are follow/unfollowers so I am quite pleased.

    I am continuing to block as many new followers I get that are following 2k+ people. Up to 100 a day (which I almost reach since the shoutout.) I am doing this because I want the 10% algorithm to have the best chance to work in my favor. This is why you don't buy fake followers because IG will show your next post to all of them and when none of them like the photo BOOM, your account has begun its slow death.

    A tip I will share today however is that there are very specific types of people on IG. There are lurkers, influencers, wannabe influencers, likers, followers, spammers, etc. It is a waste of time to filter out people simply by interest. You need to find the people who are likely to follow and/or engage. These people tend to have certain patterns and you need to identify them.

    Having realized the above, I have stopped auto comments. My followback ration on like actions has increased to 10% after reaching 10k/better content/using above filter mindset. Now all I do is f/uf moderately and like photos. My absolute maximum following will be 1k, which still looks normal for an account my size.
     
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    I have some personal reasoning on this so now I’m following the thread. Keep all of us update & good luck to the journey.
     
  6. superslikuzi

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    This seems like a good idea, it may limit growth in short term but in long term I think this is good for engagement.

    I'm also looking for patterns on people who are most likely to engage content. There is a new tool added to the bot I am using which scrapes a users account and returns the users who like+comment on each posts. It assigns them points (i.e. users who like+comment on posts will have the most points) I think this is a good step in the right direction on targeting people to follow.

    Will follow thread for more updates. Thanks for sharing, great work.
     
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  7. YeezusYe

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    did u reach 10k already?
    seems like a really interesting journey
     
  8. kantaenos

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    Yes. Sitting at 11.5 atm.
     
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    Good luck mate!
     
  10. CarloPRuff

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    Best of luck buddy.
     
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    great journey wish u more luck! i have a question what do u mean by scrape your users ? + i've been reading so much threads about GRAM Journeys but no one mentioned followliker is it dead ?
     
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    Do you want to sell?
     
  13. kantaenos

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    Followliker is really not good because you cant filter anyone. All you can do is follow by users followers. I can set follow/following limits/how active limits/ ratio limits, etc with the newer stuff. People using stuff like followliker are the ones who end up following people like me.... (why would u follow/unfollow someone like me with 12k followers and 50x followers/following ratio? Thats such a dumb ofc I will never follow back) but you cant avoid that using followliker.
     
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    Great journey. Wish you the best :)
     
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    A really interesting jurney, i'm following :)
     
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  16. curiousguy44

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    Always great to see your progress and shared information, all your posts are seriously informative (even out of this thread)!!!
     
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    great stuff, love how you think.
    Did you brand yourself as an individual or are you going for a company name or w/e?

    subbing to this thread would love to see how it goes when you put your stuff on sale
     
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  18. Maclodpryut

    Maclodpryut BANNED BANNED

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    That would be interesting to know!
     
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  19. kantaenos

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    Sorry to disappoint you lmao, but I won't be selling stuff anytime soon. I was branding myself as an individual going on an art journey. I have enough of a decent skill to market myself effectively though, Otherwise I wouldn't have as much followers as I do unless I was a f/ufmachine with 4k+ followings

    I am changing up my tactics now with a new account. I plan to use my main one to do 'free' artwork for followers I 'select' in order to improve. I expect this will cause me to grow very fast because everyone wants free artwork. I hopefully expect to convert this into paid commissions once my skill level and speed get to a place where it makes sense.

    On my new account, I am being very very very careful with it, it is non-buisness and I check every single fucking follower in case hey are low quality and block them if they are lmao. I like how I am getting 50% engagement atm even though I know it is not worth considering engagement % until you get to like 1k followers. Its kind of worrying though, to see I am getting more likes in 12 hours with a brand new account in 2018, than I did with my 2 year old personal account in like 2013. If likes were worth a dollar in 2011 they are worth less than a quarter now.
     
  20. Maclodpryut

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    Hey mate sorry for asking, your account on IG is a personal one or a buisness one?