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are your competitors spamming wiki?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by partymarty4870, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    I went to the wiki page yesterday for my keyword and when I looked closely I found one of my competitors has hidden their links quite well on the page.

    I already have one of my links on the page but it is well thought out and adds to the page (although maybe not totally within wiki's rules), something my competitors did not do.

    Their links have now all been edited out with the reason given being "blatant advertising spam".

    Yes - I did feel a bit guilty, but the guilt washed away five minutes ago when I overtook them in a lucrative G search.

    Maybe it's something we should all check.
     
  2. 420lounge

    420lounge Power Member

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    leave your competitors alone and work on your own campaigns?
     
  3. playerapX

    playerapX Regular Member

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    Not like they matter anyways its all nofollow from now on from wiki. Only thing your going to get is some traffic from it, thats it.
     
  4. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    @420lounge when that spot equates to about $500 a day extra earn I'll do anything. I'm not selling ebooks on how to make money on the internet, I market a bricks and morter business employing 4 staff as well as me and my wife.

    @playerapx 2 words for you "trust rank"
     
  5. Autumn

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    n0follow or not, the evidence shows that a link from wiki will do big things for your rankings, as well as sending some extremely high quality traffic. I know someone who got managed to slip his merchant site into the external links section on the "netbook" page and it converted into $1600 of commissions in the 12 hours the link was up.

    Having said that, it's a total mission trying to keep ahead of the rabid antis on that site, and there are other ways to get the same rankings that are ultimately easier and have more longevity. I don't bother trying to spam wiki anymore.
     
  6. Kickflip

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    Agree on both points. Why would I let my competitor do anything to outrank me or get more visitors in my same niche? It is a rough world out there, and nobody successful in internet marketing is completely innocent.

    And of course a link from Wikipedia is important. Wikipedia is the best way of showing that ********/nofollow are not as important as just getting the damn link. I will take 1 nofollow link from Wikipedia over 500 ******** links on any other sites.

    Google trusts wikipedia because there are so many people out there who will delete your link IF it doesn't look like it belongs in the article.
     
  7. BlackSeng

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    It's a Dog Eat Dog world out there.

    IM is a game. It is either you win or lose.

    There's no such thing as cheating. You can say someone cheated or sabotage one another, but in the end.. what really matters is the winner. The winner profits all while the losers are down there bitching and moaning... see the difference?
    The winner gets to take the money to go strip clubs or whatever while the losers go to their IM forums omplaining that they are sabotaged or feeling sorry for themselves.

    No, it's not unethical. It's just survival of the fittest.

    So I say partymarty did the right thing.
     
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  8. dichotom

    dichotom Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    deleted this since host changed the image on me
     
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  9. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    I just wanted to give a tip - not start a debate.

    But I'll throw this into the ring.

    Some say "leave your competitors alone", does that include stealing their links with SB?
     
  10. dichotom

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    The only time I feel bad for "competitors" is when I allow them outrank me. I know I have done them a disservice by allowing them to gain an un-deserved advantage in the SERPS. I mean, how are they ever going to learn proper techniques?

    They deserve better than that from me and every time they rank high I cry tears of sadness because I know they have received a false sense of accomplishment and will become scared and confused by their loss when my site returns to it's proper position in the results.
     
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  11. Autumn

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    Spam sucks and it's every webmaster's job to get rid of it at every opportunity.

    Sites
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