Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ENOVATIT, Mar 9, 2020.
Totally agree, I don't think he's scarier for flu
Mate (I know you never said it in this post) you really need to stop quoting the WHO because if you had actually taken the time to read all of their daily situation reports you would actually see that the mortality rate is dropping.
Hubai has a high mortality rate but even that which was 5.8 a short while ago is now at 4.4.
Guangdong 1352 cases 8 dead
Zhejiang 1215 cases 1 dead
Virtually all countries on these situation reports are hovering around 1 or two deaths per hundred.
Which again is pretty much made up of only people who have actually got sick and went to the hospital who have them tested and confirmed they are infected.
I'm not trying to make light of it or say it's not bad because obviously it is a nasty illness to vulnerable people who are already sick, weakened immune system or very old.
However the fact of the matter is, even the figures you, yourself are quoting are heavily skewed because almost 3 quarters of the cases world wide are from one place which is Wuhan.
The majority of other countries have a mortality rate of 1 to 2 %.
Those numbers from Italy aren't reported anywhere, much less on WHO, so I could never quote them.
You're a funny character, jumping your estimate of "less than 1%" to "1 to 2%". For you it's all the same
That means we just need to sit back and wait, eventually you'll be back saying you know the death rate is over 2%.
Go to Wuhan and french kiss several Chinese in the hospitals there then go back to Turkey, let me know how it works.
I never jumped anything mate, I just relayed some figures and some info gathered directly from WHO situation reports and from quotes from medical professionals saying that they think this will end up with a mortality rate of less than 1%.
The predictions from these medical experts appear to be starting to come true judging by the numbers given out daily by the world health organisation in their daily situation reports.
Again, and I don't know whether you are just not paying attention or purposely ignoring it.
These are people who have presented themselves with illness, not the many thousands of others with the virus who simply aren't accounted for.
Have you ever had pneumonia? Unlikely. I have as a 4-5 year kid and still remember the burning fever and the feeling my head is about to explode of sickness and suffocating every living second and my mom rushing me to the hospital in her arms and the doctors wrapping me with wet sheets.
Pneumonia is nothing like the cold or flu. Nothing at all. And no one on the planet has immunity against this pneumonia causing pathogen. Let that sink in.
Don't panic and be positive, sure. But also be aware and cautious. Don't be underestimating reality and don't be a reckless fool.
@CPApro That's right, some 'experts' seem to believe the rate will be under 1%. Those guys are often close to Governments and therfore want a rhetoric to avoid panic.
I bet you won't find a single scientist who has been in the field in China to tell you it's less than 1%. They've seen much higher rates in areas with high concentration of the virus.
I do hope all of those claiming less than 1% are right.
Yeah me too mate, also I'm not trying to be a dick or anything either.
I just think people are getting scares to death with this thing.
I'd love to see the mortality rate of everyone under 70 who contracts this virus, not that I think it's particularly nice that older people are dying.
It's just that virtually every death I've heard about has been an older person with underlying health issues.
Nice little debate going on in here though haha
Not really. Mortality is below flu.
We have a total of 116,000 confirmed cases worldwide.
64,300 have already been cured. 4,000 have died.
So currently there are 47,700 infected people worldwide.
The 2017/2018 flu killed 54,000 people in one month.
650.000 died altogether. There were 5-6 million confirmed cases. So I'm not afraid of Corona!
Stop it and learn how mortality is estimated; you don't go by totals when you estimate mortality rate that's laughable, you compare CFR in which COVID19 is about 35 times more deadly than the seasonal flu by current estimates. Coronavirus is far from it's peak spread, when it has its spread peaked and beyond incubation period then we can look at totals and estimate total damage.
I am a bit afraid of a lockdown or something like that more than the actual virus.
You know whats worse than flu? Flu+corona
This is exactly right the case fatality rate is hard to actually measure and with new cases popping up daily it gets trickier.
Here's a nice link for any of you worried with excerpts from health experts in the medical profession explaining why it's not always a true number.
Even after this there are just too many variables especially so early on.
Cases not reported.
Access to medical facilities.
Age of patients.
Health condition of patients.
I mean one densely populated area with poor living and medical conditions could have 300,000 cases with a 10% mortality rate.
This would skew the numbers for whole world.
I was n't scared, but now iam
I'm 100% not afraid of coronavirus. No. I'm professionally trained to quarantine & identify toxic substances of many types.
But I am 100% afraid of people. People don't like running tests for all sorts of things. I could come tell you there's likely toxic lead in your water, based on where you live... let me run a free test & most people would actually not want the results. It's generally older people who are into things like testing as they've witnessed various friends, associates, family get sick, exposed, poisoned, fall ill to something so they have more experience of seeing all the things in our environment that impact us on a daily basis.
Many things are harmful to be exposed to in high amounts:
POFA from teflon, popcorn bags, etc
Pesticides, phosphides, cyanides, etc.
Your body is at war with the environment on a daily basis whether you care to realize or not. I'm way more scared of lymes disease than coronavirus.
And I've had lymes disease & also may be positive for corona, I still have to get tested. But tics are sneaky bastards. Lymes doesn't have an obvious
beginning stage. If you fail to identify the bulls eye it can ruin your life. I saw the bullseye & was still fucked for years after with all sorts of symptoms.
Limit your exposure to everything I say. As much as humanely possible.
My city got the first case of COVID-19 today
Im only scared about economy affected by a pandemic
I think everyone should be afraid of such virus, because eventually it will capture you if you are not careful and afraid of such virus.
Not scared of the virus itself. But I am scared of the consequences. I don't mean only the economy, but also travel restrictions, restrictions in the daily life and so on.
Actually its quite ridiculous. The most people who died are older than 70 years old and already had a chronic disease. All I do is checking the facts and statistics. The statistics say more than any journalist or article out there. Whats even more ridiculous is how tens or hundreds of thousands of people died from a "normal" flu last year and somehow there is no hype, no panic, no consequences, no #stayhome or anything like this.
Apparently this virus is only dangerous for older people. Why not giving the old people a curfew or cocoon them in order to protect them instead of shutting down the whole world and its economy? 4/5 people don't show symptoms. Some of us might have it already, but we got no fever, coughing or other symptoms. In other words: Business as usual. In fact people are confronted with viruses and bacterias all the time. Whenever you sit next to a sick person, touch an ATM and minutes later touch your face etc.
Not really, more afraid with other virus.
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