...if you don't rank? we see 70% of ppl on this forum at least are saying SEO is effectively dead and frozen due to the gestapo enforcement waiting period. The ones who arent complaining still saying they enjoy good ranks probably were doing social networking/adwords to get traffic and/or are already authority sites. Like scritty giving false info when we all know he's a guru like matt woodward who any n00b would pay for his turds if he wrapped them up for them. So obv guys like that will get traffic no matter what. The only thing I see working now is pbns. So maybe a service offering those could be legit. Other than that it's just a big market on here selling fools gold is it not? Ofc the service sellers will jsut say 'we are the unlucky/stupid 70%' but 70% of ppl is quite a big number to be sweeping under the carpet. Any guests who come by are going to get very suspicious of the lumps in the floor!