Are the days of Jarvis.ai / conversion.ai group buy over?

Roger Marquez · Jan 21, 2022

Unless Jarvis launches an unlimited plan I don´t see any group buy viable in practice.

Those GBs are just shared accounts and it´s hard to limit the number of words a single person generates with their account.

What? Are you going to limit someone to 10,000 words per month? How are you going to enforce it?

Those "extra seats" features Jarvis used to have there are no longer available. Now, you can invite as many people as you want to your account...

Personally, I think the guys behind Jarvis are approaching this the right way by NOT offering an "unlimited" account because that will surely open the door for these GBs.

I understand Jarvis is pricey in comparison to other AI-based writing assistants like Rytr that, on a different note, does offer an unlimited account at $29 p/month but, if you can afford the Jarvis Boss Mode plan at $59 p/month, I think that bad boy pays by itself.

I think the best way is to get together with a couple of buddies/friends and get the Boss Mode and share the account between you and nobody else.

Cheers!!

Unity7 · Jan 21, 2022

Downvote, you'll get some credits back

AuraMarketing · Jan 21, 2022

Nothing compares to the quality of Jarvis.
Toolsurf used to offer 20k words per day a couple of weeks ago. Now they've changed it to 5k words per day. They were not able to offer PayPal due to Indian account restrictions so I had to skip them.
I was using another groupbuy tool for months that was charging $7.95 per month for unlimited words. But now they've limited the words to 30k for $24 pm.

b2btradeworld · Jan 21, 2022

AuraMarketing said:
Nothing compares to the quality of Jarvis.
Toolsurf used to offer 20k words per day a couple of weeks ago. Now they've changed it to 5k words per day. They were not able to offer PayPal due to Indian account restrictions so I had to skip them.
I was using another groupbuy tool for months that was charging $7.95 per month for unlimited words. But now they've limited the words to 30k for $24 pm.

Which one?
Would you mind pm me

Rajesh Menon · Jan 21, 2022

IM Rider said:
Group buys are removing it from their shop. No one seems to be offering it.
1) Suggest a working group buy for jarvis.ai?
2) What's the next best thing to jarvis.ai?

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getivan · Jan 21, 2022

There are literally dozens of A.I. Writing Tools on that market, based off of the Open A.I. technology, and Jarvis is one of the most overpriced solutions.
Just do a search for some services, and compare their prices and features.
There are about three of them that I've bought on AppSumo in the past month.
They're everywhere.

MKSKS · Jan 21, 2022

Jarvis rolled out an update last month since then the trial methods stopped.

india · Jan 21, 2022

It's due to FUP policy. There are other alternatives that are cheaper and work almost similar but not as easy as Jarvis.

IM Rider · Jan 21, 2022

Roger Marquez said:
Unless Jarvis launches an unlimited plan I don´t see any group buy viable in practice.

Those GBs are just shared accounts and it´s hard to limit the number of words a single person generates with their account.

What? Are you going to limit someone to 10,000 words per month? How are you going to enforce it?

Those "extra seats" features Jarvis used to have there are no longer available. Now, you can invite as many people as you want to your account...

Personally, I think the guys behind Jarvis are approaching this the right way by NOT offering an "unlimited" account because that will surely open the door for these GBs.

I understand Jarvis is pricey in comparison to other AI-based writing assistants like Rytr that, on a different note, does offer an unlimited account at $29 p/month but, if you can afford the Jarvis Boss Mode plan at $59 p/month, I think that bad boy pays by itself.

I think the best way is to get together with a couple of buddies/friends and get the Boss Mode and share the account between you and nobody else.

Cheers!!

50k words is 10 article. Bruh you wanna invite people to a party, it's gonna be over before you even finish eating the starter.

getivan said:
There are literally dozens of A.I. Writing Tools on that market, based off of the Open A.I. technology, and Jarvis is one of the most overpriced solutions.
Just do a search for some services, and compare their prices and features.
There are about three of them that I've bought on AppSumo in the past month.
They're everywhere.
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And I want the next best. Read the OP.

Unity7 said:
Downvote, you'll get some credits back

What is downvote?

AuraMarketing said:
Nothing compares to the quality of Jarvis.
Toolsurf used to offer 20k words per day a couple of weeks ago. Now they've changed it to 5k words per day. They were not able to offer PayPal due to Indian account restrictions so I had to skip them.
I was using another groupbuy tool for months that was charging $7.95 per month for unlimited words. But now they've limited the words to 30k for $24 pm.

Which one is that?

Poople said:
I have used rytr, jarvis, and conversion ai. Also a few others on App Sumo.

I prefer Head Lime over all of them.

Will check head lime.

IM Rider · Jan 21, 2022

tazarbm said:
let us know the results

I am stuck here in rytr, how do I "lead" ai to "continue" to 4th item of the list? (this is just an example, not actual post)

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1. Electronic Dance Music:
Generally referred as EDM, this form of music is produced by DJs who add dozens of tones to a piece to create unique music. You can hear them in clubs or even live, depending upon your accessibility for the same. In the early twenties, electronic dance music was known in the form of Jamaican dub music, the electronic music of Kraftwerk, the disco music of Giorgio Moroder, the Yellow Magic Orchestra and many more.

2. Rock Music:
Originated as “Rock & Roll” in the United States, Rock music has been rocking the world since the 1950s. It is a form of music that started actually around string instruments, but now uses other modern instruments too making it a little difficult to give it an accurate definition. Its loud and strong beats make it popular among the youths. Some of the rock stars who have popularized the culture include Little Richard, Bill Haley and Chuck Berry while rock bands like Pink Floyd, The Doors, Metallica, Nirvana and Megadeth are the modern bands who have taken the culture by storm.

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Roger Marquez · Jan 21, 2022

IM Rider said:
50k words is 10 article. Bruh you wanna invite people to a party, it's gonna be over before you even finish eating the starter.

So your baseline for an article´s length is 5,000 words?

IM Rider · Jan 21, 2022

Roger Marquez said:
So your baseline for an article´s length is 5,000 words?

On average, you will "burn" 5000 words quota to write a 1500 word article using Jaris.

tazarbm · Jan 21, 2022

IM Rider said:
I am stuck here in rytr, how do I "lead" ai to "continue" to 4th item of the list? (this is just an example, not actual post)

Top 10 genres of Music Industry

A music genre is a conventional category that identifies some pieces of music as belonging to a shared tradition or set of conventions. Music can be divided into different genres in many different ways. The artistic nature of music means that these classifications are often subjective and controversial, and some genres may overlap.

1. Electronic Dance Music:
Generally referred as EDM, this form of music is produced by DJs who add dozens of tones to a piece to create unique music. You can hear them in clubs or even live, depending upon your accessibility for the same. In the early twenties, electronic dance music was known in the form of Jamaican dub music, the electronic music of Kraftwerk, the disco music of Giorgio Moroder, the Yellow Magic Orchestra and many more.

2. Rock Music:
Originated as “Rock & Roll” in the United States, Rock music has been rocking the world since the 1950s. It is a form of music that started actually around string instruments, but now uses other modern instruments too making it a little difficult to give it an accurate definition. Its loud and strong beats make it popular among the youths. Some of the rock stars who have popularized the culture include Little Richard, Bill Haley and Chuck Berry while rock bands like Pink Floyd, The Doors, Metallica, Nirvana and Megadeth are the modern bands who have taken the culture by storm.

3. Jazz:
Identified with swing and blue notes, Jazz has its roots both in the West African and European culture. It is said that Jazz is “One of America’s original art forms” and boasts a unique combination of creativity, coactions and interactivity. Originating in the late 19th to early 20th century, Jazz has also played an important role in introducing the world to a number of women performers like Ella Fitzgerald, Betty Carter, Abbey Lincoln and Ethel Waters.

ugh, I don't remember cause it's several months since I used it

All I remember is that I highlighted 300-400 characters and then right-mouse clicked and chose one of the functions. I think I mostly used rewrite and expand, so probably you're gonna use expand, but I honestly don't remember how I did it

IM Rider · Jan 21, 2022

tazarbm said:
ugh, I don't remember cause it's several months since I used it

All I remember is that I highlighted 300-400 characters and then right-mouse clicked and chose one of the functions. I think I mostly used rewrite and expand, so probably you're gonna use expand, but I honestly don't remember how I did it

Rytr does not have a "continue" function, this is the main feature of Jarvis.

By the way, support is a bunch of jerks

Please watch the tutorial. We do not have a continue writing feature. You have to use Paragraph tool from the ribbon to write more text.

-‍--> "Dedicated account manager " <--- they don't have this either.

Support IS the Dedicated account manager!!

tazarbm · Jan 21, 2022

IM Rider said:
Rytr does not have a "continue" function, this is the main feature of Jarvis.

By the way, support is a bunch of jerks

Please watch the tutorial. We do not have a continue writing feature. You have to use Paragraph tool from the ribbon to write more text.

-‍--> "Dedicated account manager " <--- they don't have this either.

Support IS the Dedicated account manager!!

well, yeah, Rytr is not Jarvis. I still prefer rytr over the obscenely expensive Jarvis, though...

I don't know anything about their support cause I never used it, but I'll take your word for it that it's shit

reaaski · Jan 21, 2022

IM Rider said:
Rytr does not have a "continue" function, this is the main feature of Jarvis.

By the way, support is a bunch of jerks

Please watch the tutorial. We do not have a continue writing feature. You have to use Paragraph tool from the ribbon to write more text.

-‍--> "Dedicated account manager " <--- they don't have this either.

Support IS the Dedicated account manager!!

Support replies were bot-like. I wrote 2 paragraphs, got a reply to pay for the service again. Completely unrelated.

I used this instead of other techniques because I was checking to see what would give me the best performance

Unfortunately, the service gives me a headache. The initial impression was good, but as it turns out, editing it won't give you interesting information unless I stuff it there, but then it looks like a mediocre rewrite.

Copy.ai gave a better result with some settings, but the number of duplicates was around 20%. Often the text was off-topic and I had to generate 10 times to get the rewrite I wanted.

This is a bigger effort than writing it by hand considering the number of edits and paragraphs I had to go through.

I keep searching.

warriorsam53 · Jan 21, 2022

Not sure about group buys since I'm on the early adopter plan but there aren't any viable alternatives to Jarvis. I've tried several of them and they are total crap. The only reason that the other tools are unlimited is that it takes forever to create a blog post. If you value your time, there's no alternative to Jarvis.

Jarvis is worth every penny. Even if you get the plan with 100,000 words for 100 bucks, it's a good deal. You can easily get 20-30 great posts out of that. And the content is way better than what you'll get from most of the writers.

Plus, there are several other ways that you can use Jarvis and make back way more than what you're paying. If you think out of the box, you can do a lot of different stuff that nobody even talks about.

QualityService · Jan 21, 2022

Jarvis is going Flippa and Fiverr way. They think they have no alternative hence steep price. But other AI are as good as Jarvis. In order to survive, they will have to bring down cost.
50k words for $60 is too much, considering that lots of words are wasted in correction itself.

AuraMarketing · Jan 21, 2022

b2btradeworld said:
Which one?
Would you mind pm me

It's 30k words per month for $24. It would be better for you to purchase Jarvis directly.

shawn_007 · Jan 21, 2022

If you find any alternative solution to Jarvis AI, which works good for you then please suggest.

Are the days of Jarvis.ai / conversion.ai group buy over?

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