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Are SeNuke + GSA + SAPE the ultimate link-building combo now?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by seoactive, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. seoactive

    seoactive Regular Member

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    SeNuke - Mainly for Web2.0, bookmarking and forums (low PR links tho)
    GSA - Mainly for diversity, pretty much all link-types (mix of high and low PR links)
    SAPE - High PR links (no more than 10% of total # of links)

    It seems like most users here have the 2 tools above and mix it with SAPE for some high PR backlinks. Is this the standard/common setup now? What's your perspective on this?
     
  2. Gyuman82

    Gyuman82 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    These days it seems like automated tools + high PR links is the way to go. So yes a combination like the one you mentioned is a good strategy.
     
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  3. seoactive

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    Thanks for the input. I am not sure why so many people got hit by "SAPE". is it because they are using 90% SAPE with no link-type diversity / anchor-text diversity or something?

    I am sure Google knows about SAPE and put a stop to it. But I don't think it will be easy for them to completely trace sites that are using them etc. But that's a whole different topic here.
     
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    With regards to your comment, I think SAPE will probably be around for a while, though I am sure it will get taken down eventually.

    It is usually my experience that these sites "drop" because their rankings are comprised of a combination of High PR links (SAPE, Private Blog Network etc) as well as automated links (senuke, GSA etc).

    Whenever an algorithm update happens, it usually hits the automated links. So for example if your site was ranked #1 using a combination of SAPE and Automated links, the algorithm update generally devalues the automated links, and thats why you see a drop because you lose some "juice".
     
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    lmxftw BANNED BANNED

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    1.convince clients to move to bing
    2. ????
    3. profit!
     
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    feliperce Registered Member

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    senuke + gsa, great results for me!
     
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    Yeah good results, but for how long?
     
  8. DoubleUp

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    Would agree, some kind of automated tool along with SAPE should do well. Not too sure now though after yesterdays update.
     
  9. Ozzmannor

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    As I'm a hardcore GSA SER user and I don't know that much about SENuke you have to forgive my lack of knowledge regarding SENuke.

    But I ask myself every time why should i use SENuke for bookmarking and forums when you can also archive the same with SER alone if I'm not wrong.

    Whats left is the Web20/Social Network module of SENuke. To my understanding its using a lot of social networking sites like Oxwall, JCow, PHPFox and so on. Those can also be done with SER alone. Only "real" Web20s like wordpress, insanejournal, etc. are not working well with SER out of the box. But you are able to subscribe to SERengines for less than $20 which closes the gap between SENuke and SER for those type of sites. According to my sources an article-post-managing tool for SER will be available very soon, so you are able to schedule the article-posting and built a "real" blog on these sites (not only 1 post blogs).

    Whats the reason to pay more than $100/month when I'm able to archieve most of that with SER (+ SERengines) alone if you know how to setup SER properly? For Web20 profiles or the RSS module? I don't really get it.
     
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  10. WayneInc

    WayneInc Senior Member

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    Snake + GSA is best.. afterall Result depends on your method how you do backlink..
     
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    In the hurry to get your post counts up, you now have a lot of typos. I see you lost a lot of rep these past days. Grow up and edit your signature. On Topic: Senuke is expensive and there are cheaper alternatives available. So GSA+Sape should do it.
     
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    It doesn't matter whatsoever what tools you use, it's about the content you put out with them, to which sites, how you link etc.
    No matter if you do it with Ultimate Demon, senuke xcr, GSA, Licorne or by hand, it's all about the work you put into your campaigns.
     
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    Linkbuilding tools are just a means to executing your SEO plans faster - their effectiveness relies heavily on the effectiveness of your plan.

    A lot of people can destroy their site's backlink profile with Senuke, while others can use it wisely.

    It is not so much the tools you use, but the proper implementation of strong SEO plans that counts.
     
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    I'm creating my first tiers completely by hand these days, it takes a lot more time, but I can ensure that they are of the utmost quality.

    These are a 80/20 mix of web 2.0 sites and expired domains that I set up on a cheap hosting plan and recreate using that internet time machine site to see roughly what sort of content and pages there were before.

    Then once this first tier is set up, I do all the usual blasts with UD & GSA. Then for the tier 1s that are doing the best I purchase links from other russian networks - Google Chrome is your friend here for translation.

    Any of the following vendors are good and you can completely cut out the middle man prices that you get if you buy off someone else. Just make sure you test a few links to a dummy site before pointing them at your web 2.0s to make sure you've set everything up correctly.

    Link Vendors:

    linkfeed.ru
    mainlink.ru
    setlinks.ru
    fatlink.ru
    xap.ru
    liex.ru

     
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  15. seoactive

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    Whats the 'second-best' network you recommend beside SAPE? I see a list of russian networks being shared here (thanks), but they all look very similar. Where should I start at this point? Thx
     
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    I like the diagram designer of senuke, and the recorder... I can control and make strategy witch it
     
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    It's a decent combo.
    AAA linker
    Bulk linker
    Relevance or High PR linker (SAPE or your own targets)

    SAPE is fine for now - wish people wouldn't keep moaning about it.
    Yes one day it WILL get bollocked. It's just WAY too high profile to last forever.
    In the meantime it is very powerful and has the huge advantage that as soon as you stop paying your links are removed (no need to remove them yourself or use link disavow) For me - despite the huge cost over time for SAPE - this is an advantage.

    In the mean time if you are making a big positive ROI on these tools and services - then that's all that matters.

    Scritty
     
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    Very well said.
     
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    Every Type of Links have its High days and Low Days...It is not Correct to say that if it is working at this time, it will work with next G-Update.
    I heard and read, that G- Next Update is Big which is estimation in August, So there might be a chance to hit for this Plan..
    BTW, Simple thing "Tools are like weapon, in Hands of a Baby is Dangerous but in Hands of Army Man it is a Weapon and Sign of Safety..
     
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    Well, you made some really good points and of course, I think you are one of the few who knows how to utilize GSA perfectly.. I really admire your knowledge and talent. Btw, i m going to sign up SERengines soon. Thanks
    SeNuke is actually quite easy to use. It's really a no-brainer. I know a few users that are experts with it tho, making their own templates and different settings, but thats another story. I think people who destoryed their site backlink's with senuke probably overestimated what this tool can do and did not diversify their anchor text and such. I think that's one of the most common mistakes perhaps.