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Are .info domain names alot harder to rise in the serps with

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by theexpress, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. theexpress

    theexpress Regular Member

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    Hi How much harder is it to get a .info to rise in the serps, Does google knock down .info or does the basic seo etc still apply to .info domain names Thanks
     
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    I can't say precisely, but they are definitely a lot harder to get better rankings with. Google likes .com .net .org and .net as far as I'm concerned.

    No no's - .co.cc .info .tk
     
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  3. theexpress

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    Thanks for the info (No pun intended lol) Yes i think you are correct on this also
     
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    i dont think it matters THAT much...look at the popular movie site that just got shut down and reopened with a .info...it is already ranking for "watch free movies online"...i think content is most important
     
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    info does nt matters. Only seo matters. I have 3 info sites ranking well in google.
     
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    You should be able to get a good SERP position on any site regardless of the tld. Those are all legitimate tld's and many domains will be registered with them by totally legitimate companies so it isn't in google's interest to totally discredit them.

    The tld is most likely a factor in the algorithm, but not so much so as to make it worthless. If you do proper onsite SEO and backlinking then you should still be able to get a good listing position regardless of the chosen tld.

    Having said that, I also think that for the average visitor they will see dotcoms as having much more credibility and be more likely to spend money. If you plan to monetize a website in any manner that requires your visitors to make a purchase then you should always go for a dotcom if possible.
     
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    does not matter
     
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    I have a couple info sites that are ranking well, so I think it is how you SEO your site..
     
  9. newss

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    Yeah it doesn't matter overall. However, I have noticed that at first its slightly harder to rank well with a .info. So obviously Google is initially more skeptical of .info domains vs a .com or .net. But it's fairly normal, since it can take longer for a brand new domain to rank well, i've just noticed .info's take a little longer
     
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    Also consider, they probably moved the domain over within google webmaster tools, so they received all the juice they previously had. Not to mention there probably are plenty of newspapers who have written about the fact they have moved to a .info, so they are getting a ton of high PR links.
     
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    I tested this out with an exact keyword.com, org, info, and us. I hosted them all on different severs and tried to keep everything as exact as possible, without having dup content. They all have the same keyword density, number of pages, number of posts, number of backlinks, etc.

    They all were in the top 20 in yahoo within a week, in google within a month. The .org was the first to show up in google, after about 2 and a half weeks.

    It's been about 8 weeks now, and they are currently in google:

    Keyword.us - #2
    Keyword.org - #8
    Keyword.com - #9
    Keyword.info - #12

    I'm not saying that this will always be the case, or that the order of ranking has anything to do with the tdl's, but those were my results, for what it's worth.
     
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    that is very helpful, thank you.
     
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    i have a couple .info's that are ranking on the first page so i don't think it really matters. i think its all in your content and how you seo your site.
     
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    Yes, you can rank well with an info and, as some other members have said above, I have one info in particular that is raking in the cash!!

    However, my experience with info's has been that it requires more effort to rank well with them than it does with a .com.

    A hierarchy of sites must exist within Google, with the likes of edu's and gov's at the top and coms, nets and orgs ranking above info's.
     
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    yea it doesn't matter i have more than 150 .info domains and most of them are on first page of google for competitive keywords.
     
  16. MagicMike

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    I agree with Topsytips... I don't like .info's simply because it seems to take a lot more effort initially to get them ranked well. I've done some testing and frankly I wouldn't use them if I'm looking to rank right out of the box, so to speak.

    I generally only use .info's for "information" sites where I'm sending someone to after they have already entered my funnel.
     
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    info is just as good as .com, those are all global TLD`s.
    .info is usually used for spam, not SEO, thats why you don`t find them in the SE that much.
    and anybody building a decent site automaticly uses .com

    they are valeud lower by humans not by google
    so they are just as good as .com .net .org from a seo point of vieuw. these are all global domains

    the best would actually be a .us domain, simply because it was intended for the United states, so that site will rank better in the google.com serp results, and not in the rest of the world, elliminating a lot of useless trafic from countrys you can`t sell to.
    but these are valued lower by humans, because everybody is so used to .com. most people wont remember that a site was a .us, and automaticly type .com next time they want to visit it.

    its the unrelated geotargeted domains you have to stay away from. like .tv or .cc
    these officially are for some shitty little countrys nobody heard of, located on the other side of the world in the middle of nowhere.
    they obviously wont rank in the US google serps. the only time they rank first for your keyword is when someone searches for your keyword on google from a pc located in the shitty country the TLD was intended for. but people in those countrys don`t speak english and don`t search for englisch keywords, so your site won`t get traffic from that country either

    you have know what the TLD is intented for and use them appropriatly
     
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  18. dynander

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    I'm not sure about local TLDs. For example, if you search for "Ed Dale" (The one from 30DC), his blog appear in first page with a .co domain. Also, the new site for 30DC is a .co one.

    BTW I'm in argentina, no proxy or similar. Being in Argentina is not a problem for a .co to show up
     
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    to what country belongs .co?

    colombia maybe. both are spanish speaking country`s, right? or do they speak portuges in argentina?

    anyway, if there aren`t enough suitable argintina sites to fill the first page, google will fill it with other related pages from elsewhere.

    and i`m not saying it is impossible. but it is much harder to rank a .us site than a site with an argintina tld in argintina.

    local tlds are usually ranked higher then .com sites. provided they are promoted evenly ofcourse.
     
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    I'm sure the people of Tuvalu (.tv) and Cocos Islands (.cc) appreciates their homeland being referred to as some shitty little countries. lol


    Well since the ".tv" tld has such a similarity to TV as in television, it has actually been somewhat redesignated for a new purpose.

    The domain is currently operated by dotTV, a VeriSign company; the Tuvalu government owns twenty percent of the company. In 2000, Tuvalu negotiated a contract leasing its Internet domain name ".tv". The ".tv" tld is now marketed commercially for use in television or video-related sites; can be registered and used for any purpose.

    Since 2006 VeriSign has had an alliance with Demand Media to market the .tv top level domain name (TLD) as the preferred Web address for rich media content. On March 16, 2010, Sedo announced that it teamed up with Verisign to hold an exclusive auction on April 1st for 115 premium .TV domain names.

    Basically this means that even though the tld was originally established for "some shitty country" it is actually becoming designated as a global domain for media rich websites. I imagine that Verisign, Demand Media, and Sedo have had some communication with google as to the tld's it's new intended use.


    Verisign also administers the ".cc" tld through a subsidiary company eNIC and marketed it for international registration. Much of the success of the domain sales came as a direct result of Sams entering into a deal with the largest radio broadcaster in the United States, Clear Channel (CC) Communications, to advertise and promote the domain on several hundred radio stations over a three month period back in 2001. The .cc domain is preferred by many churches and Christian organizations as "CC" also happens to be an abbreviation for "Christian Church."

    So while your probably correct about google not serving up most country code tld's except in local searches, Google most likely treats at least the ".tv" tld and probably also the ".cc" tld and several others in much the same way as it does other global tld's such as ".mobi".
     
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