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Are Fiverr buyers a bit too demanding?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by TheSEOWizard, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. TheSEOWizard

    TheSEOWizard Power Member

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    I have been using my own methods and harvesting combination to find a lot of expired Web 2.0 recently. I had got them in excess and have also posted several freebies here at BHW in the last week.

    So, I thought that let me sell off some of those Web 2.0 (mainly expired tumblr) at Fiverr as there were a lot of related gigs there. I have been mainly a buyer all these years on Fiverr but thought of selling for a change. I compared other gigs and kept the prices much lower than any other gig.

    I created several simultaneous gigs for expired Tumblr, Weebly, Blogger etc. in my Fiverr profile here:

    https://www.fiverr.com/zamanwaz

    But the first possible buyer who approaches me on Tumblr made a weird demand. He needed two PR2 blogspot with awesome PA and amazing backlink profile for $5. I mean how weird a demand can that be? It is probably easier to find gold in the beach than to find a PR2 blogspot with awesome DA and backlinks combination still there (after the 6 months or more post-deletion cooling off period kept by blogger). Google does not leave blogger blogs till the time the all the DA and backlinks juice are nearly exhausted? Even if I find one by chance, I would need to spend a full week probably in harvesting and manually checking probably hundreds of thousands of dead bloggers. That too for a mere $5 where Fiverr would probably take $1 as processing fee. WTH.

    I told him that take Tumblr. You are my first probable sale and I will give you a good deal. But he just seemed adamant. He said otherwise give Wordpress. Wordpress does not even allow re-registration of deleted blogs and he was looking for expired Web 2.0 even without knowing these basic stuff.

    This is my first experience as a seller on Fiverr. Are all buyers on Fiverr that crazy or are there decent buyers out there too? Just wanted to know from all the experienced Fiverr experts here. :D
     
  2. voodoodoll

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    I think the key to Fiverr is selling easy gigs. Gigs that don't take much of your time to fulfill. The way to head off the problem you're experiencing is to clearly state in your description exactly what you will deliver.

    Don't leave the door open for negotiation, or these kinds of demands. People will try to squeeze everything they can out of you for a penny.

    If you sell expired accounts tell them upfront in your description that you do not guarantee any PR, etc. Put that in bold letters so they clearly understand before they purchase.
     
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    Voodoo is right. Another note, on Fiverr, most people are NOT SEO experts. That is why 10K Blog Comment gigs that only give you a report for 1K Scrapbox comments get 5 Starts. They most often do not KNOW SEO.

    Your gig's seem to assume people know what your gigs are. A short description of the benefit and a clear outline of the service will get more success. For example:

    " Our team will find you one expired XXXXX blog which has Page Rank (PR) and Domain Authority (DA). This is the best way to either improve your ranking in Google or to start your own website on. You can't beat the value of a Do - Follow property which passes 100% of it's power to your website."

    It's crap, I know, but I hope you get the point. It is about letting the buyer know the benefits of the service as if you were explaining it to a noob to IM. That will convert better.

    If you do that, you can get away with selling one Blogger or Tumbler for the $5. Just because Tumbler sells on BHW for $2 a pop does not mean you need to beat the price on Fiverr, you just need to market it to people who will never master or most likely understand SEO.

    If the service is good, some SEO savvy people will buy it and become repeat customers. The money is in people who have no idea, buy 100 $5 gigs, because, heck, its only 5 bucks.

    If you outline exactly what they will get, explain it in simple terms, more people will buy, you will make more money, and get less hassle. As a former fiverr buyer of a lot of gigs, I can tell you it really does make a difference.
     
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  4. TheSEOWizard

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    Thank you both for your inputs. The other point is perhaps to neglect such messages. I have created probably 6 or 7 gigs now and I will create a few more for other Web 2.0s. I will keep on harvesting the Web 2.0s primarily for my own needs and if any customer is there, I will sell them off.

    BTW I have made everything clear in the description. But that guy was looking for a custom offer out of nowhere. Hell, I am promising 8 PA 27+ Tumblr and 4 PA 27+ Weebly and 3 PA 27+ blogspot for $5 each. I am providing nearly half the price of any other seller on Fiverr as I have excess inventory and have discovered good tricks after working on Web 2.0s for the last few weeks. But still the buyers out there are looking for more.

    I would probably leave those gigs aside and if anybody genuinely orders the gigs in the future, I would provide them for the relevant gig as promised. It is probably better to not waste time on those paltry $5 and keep on messaging back and forth. At best, I might push some reviews and ratings to get them started a bit.
     
  5. Aluminium

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    When I was getting started with content writing I obviously gave Fiverr a shot (as most beginners do). I figured out quite quickly that there were a few clients whom always demanded "more", no matter how much I gave them. It took me a little bit to realize that I was editing pieces of content to the point where I essentially wrote them an additional piece, that's where I figured things out.

    Sometimes people just want to give you a tough time in order to see how much they can milk out of their vendors; especially on Fiverr. Some people expect to get gold out of their $5 investment, which is just completely retarded at any rate.
     
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  6. TheSEOWizard

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    I have to agree about the "milking out the vendors" part. One reason for the same is probably because every seller is trying to reduce prices even more. And the quality simply deteriorates due to the same. I have been a buyer all these years on Fiverr and I have noticed that many of the so called low priced popular gigs hardly provide a fraction of the promised services. That is in a way justified as it is not possible to expect the world in $5. In case of content writing like you are in, it would probably be even worse as a genuine quality writer would need to work a lot harder to creating high quality unique interesting content. And if the buyers keeps on demanding "more", it just becomes both irritating and a waste of time and money.
     
  7. CyberAlien

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    Here's something you need to remember and it doesn't just apply to Fiverr: you decide who your customers are. If a customer is too demanding or not worth your time, don't take them on as a client. Sure, you may lose a little money right then, but it will make you more money in the long run because you aren't having to deal with all their demands when you could be dealing with easier clients.
     
  8. maxedgames

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    Fiverr favors the buyer (obviously) so if the buyer finds anything wrong with your service they can easily cancel the payment even after it has been delivered. I myself have gigs on fiverr, for the most part the buyers are good and are friendly but I have had a few nasty transactions.
     
  9. TheSEOWizard

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    Thank you for the tip. I have decided not to concentrate on such buyers any more. In fact, I will not concentrate on Fiverr unless some good buyers approach. At best, I would probably push up a few reivews from BHW groups etc. and let the rest flow if it happens.

    The guy approached me again on Fiverr. I did not reply back since yesterday and he himself contacted me and asked that he is finally ready to accept Weebly as if he is doing me some great benefit. But even there he kept the condition that he needs the best PR, best PA and best backlinks for 4 weebly he said he would buy. This time I just replied that tell me how much would you pay. I will create custom order if needed but I ain't give in to your demands for only $2 per Weebly. I will let him or any other buyer approach me and will leave Fiverr for the time being. Instead, it is better to collect Web 2.0s for my own networks as I have been doing in the past.

    Anyways, it does not make sense to give the few Web 2.0 gems which takes often several days to find for only a handful of dollars. It is much better to use them for my own sites and networks.
     
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    Never do gigs for TOXIC CUSTOMERS..... I will give you some key points

    1. If the customer asks you a bunch of questions before ordering, there is a 95% chance that they are going to be trouble.
    2. If the customer wants more then 1 gig modification, Cancel the gig.

    This is my own policy to avoid TOXIC customers. You may lose a few orders but they are like babies that need constant attention
     
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  11. UptonGoodwin

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    Your lowest paying customers are probably going to be the biggest pain in the ass for you so it makes sense a lot of fiverr users are gonna expect 24k gold for $5
     
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    Joining the conversation and giving OP my 2cents:

    I have sold a couple of hundred Gigs on Fiverr (content and translation - both heavy work load) and confirm what others have said:

    - Customers trying to push for more, more and more exist and even menaced to give me negative comments

    The worst customers are GERMANS. Critical, always whining and demanding more. It seems that they think that their Euros are worth more or maybe they think that a "poor guy" selling his services for 5 Bucks must be in a desperate need. I had one guy who asked for a custom offer to write him a small ebook. I sat down for days writing, polishing and editing. I gave out the finished product to someone else who is an expert for that topic and got additional insights, ideas and more editing. After delivering the product he cancels the order and writes to Fiverr that the content is not what he expected. After a long exchange of messages (where he never admitted WHAT exactly is wrong with the content - it wasn't spelling, grammar or mistakes) he offered me to pay 15 fricking Dollars to "compensate" me! I told him that it is unfair to keep the finished product and that I would have no way to check if he would use it or not. Basically he answered: not my problem.

    - I mainly use Fiverr to get contacts & leads. Out of that I got 2 customers who pay me monthly to write content for their websites/Facebook pages.

    Fiverr is a good start to: get confidence, experience of what works and what doesn't, to get to know people, to test new services and how people respond to them, to learn to get focused and to fill up your Payoneer card once in a while. Other than that: you will work, busting your ass off and WAIT, WAIT and WAIT for your money to come through (this is my biggest problem with Fiverr: 3 days until the customer releases the funds, then 2 WEEKS until Fiverr releases the funds, then another day - if you don't pay express fee - for Payoneer to release the funds). You work NOW to get a future payment.
     
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    MY 2 cents, I've now had just over 1400 gigs sold on 5r.

    I too use it for leads for my other main site/business, but yes you get a lot of people who are either just pushy and want everything for nothing.

    My descriptions are fully laid out, no room for questions, (although i am still surprised for the stupid questions i get) so orders are pretty much smooth. I try not to be sarcastic when a gig is selling say 5k emails for $5, and they ask , "how much for 10k emails ?";). I just count to 10 then reply normally.

    However there are the ones who expect the world, we ALL get things for free online and $5 is pretty close to that, so some expect everything for $5. For those that are very pushy or just arrogant and EXPECT that $4 your making to cover 4 hours of work, well I just let them hang for a few days first, then i break down what they are getting and compare it to the top guys online to explain they are getting an awesome deal and to be realistic in their expectations.

    Beyond that if they are still pushy or rude, I'll just tell them where to go, not worth my time holding someones hand who is clearly taking advantage of the situation, fishing for pricing, trying to beat you down from $5, i mean REALLY !

    You can tell the people who really dont know, and i have not problem going back and forth with them guiding them, but the others, just hang up!
     
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  14. TheSEOWizard

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    Thank you all for the tips. I have used your tips and started to leave the negotiation tables possibly closed whenever possible. Instead I am trying to overdeliver in all the gigs as they are starting to flow in gradually. Hope to naturally get some positive rankings in all possible gigs and then move on from there. I have also been trying to mention in the description to check my other gigs. Have got a few larger custom orders too and some gig extras with a couple of orders. So, it is finally starting to work a bit.
     
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    I sell YouTube subscribers so a lot of my buyers are young teenagers with their mommys credit card. They do nothing but ask a ton of dumb ass questions and I so badly just want to tell them to fuck off. I keep myself together though. I've gotten to the point where I only answer their questions right before I deliver the order. No negative feedback so far, but I get a low rating for seller communication a lot.
     
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  17. TheSEOWizard

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    Agree. But finally I am seeing some customers who are either ordering large custom offers or are ordering the gig extras by default for a change. Hopefully my strategy of over delivering works out at least for the first 10-20 customers. Then when I finally get good number of review on all my gigs, I would probably try to stop overdelivering too much. At first, need to get both reviews and orders. Providing the best deals on Fiverr and yet overdelivering to keep them spellbound so that they all leave amazing reviews.

    Thanks everyone again for all your tips. :)
     
  18. Dilettante

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    Hello,

    Fiverr Buyers are assholes!

    Sorry, but I had to say it.

    I have some gigs, and

    1) or buyers don't understand the gig (my gig is clear)

    2) or buyers want their gig quick, without paying the Extra for extra fast delivery

    3) or they want more

    4) or they want things which aren't in the gigs or in the extras.

    5) or they ask a LOT of questions because they are afraid of losing $5 ...

    SHIT! It's only a $5 gig! They expect the world, or even the universe for $5.

    And the worse buyers are ... FRENCH buyers : they want more, they want everything only for $5, and you must be thankful.

    Frenchs buyers are despiscable!


    P.S. : and you know what? I'm French.
     
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    Fiverr is a joke on both ends.. for both buyer and seller. I avoid it like the plague. I understand some people make some decent money with it here, but I wouldn't want to revolve my life/income around trying to please idiots.

    Just my $0.02
     
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    Fiverr SEO = Reselling from SEOclerks