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Are article spinners still needed by a lot of people?

Discussion in 'Associated Content & Writing Articles' started by Nakota757, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. Nakota757

    Nakota757 Junior Member

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    I have no idea how to create programs or anything, but I have some great ideas to make an article spinner that would actually be coherent instead of a bunch of incomprehensible nonsense. I know my way around the English language. There's only two things:

    1. I'm wondering if there's still a large demand for something like this.

    2. It would take a lot of time to create a synonym list that isn't just scraped from a thesaurus. That's what makes article spinners so useless, they use every synonym in the book.

    I don't really know what to do with my ideas.
     
  2. Danny Relic

    Danny Relic Regular Member Premium Member

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    As someone who knows the bot market very well, all I have to say is that if your spinner has some new concept powering it that beats out the others (there are some good ones out there), then you've got a million dollar idea.

    There I said it. :)
     
  3. Nakota757

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    Danny, in your opinion, what is the current best article spinner? And I'm talking about the ones that are of the "Paste your article and get a rewritten one in seconds!" variety. I've tried a lot of them and haven't been satisfied with any.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Danny Relic Regular Member Premium Member

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    There are no 100% GOOD rewriters out there.

    Spinning is changing a few words here and there.

    Rewriting is a whole different ball game entirely, and currently algorithms don't exist for systematically rewriting the English language in a completely coherent way.
     
  5. Nakota757

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    Well see, that's what my idea covers, I'm thinking about making the whole synonym list by hand. It would basically be like WordFlood but with a much less time consuming approach.
     
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    There are novel ideas being created all the time for new rewriters. I've got an incredibly intricate one of my own I plan on trying out soon. I've got a bunch of English majors at my university on board with it too.

    If you're gonna spend the time and money and energy into creating a rewriter program, you will need some help. The English language gets more complex as you try and write one of these things. I've had to trash about 8 different concepts so far, simply because what I thought would work, doesn't.

    Not saying you're idea won't work, but hoping that when you hit the inevitable snags during the coding process that you are motivated enough to persevere. After all, the SpellCheck concept was once considered revolutionary. Can you imagine how difficult that must have been to write code for?
     
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    Now you're starting to make me question my ideas, haha. I don't know the first thing about coding though, so I don't know how I'd overcome those types of things. My idea is kind of simple but I think it would totally change the automatic rewriters drastically.
     
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    Trust me, Danny and I have had hour long conversations about this idea... We just keep hitting walls that stop us and make us think, "How the hell are we gonna do that?" Like Danny said, if this project can be thought out and executed correctly, you'd be a millionaire.

    There, I said it too. :D
     
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    Without a doubt...anyone that comes up with a fully automated rewriting software that WORKS will be one rich dude. The fact that it hasn't been able to be done in this modern age is a testament to just how hard it is to code. ;)
     
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    Spinning the whole sentence is just impossible unless you are mixing things out that can spit out crap.
     
  11. muchacho

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    One method would be to spin sentences rather than words.

    Words in english can have a different meaning in different contexts, so with all the IFs and THENs that would be needed, it might be better replacing the thesaurus with sentences, or at least a group of keywords.

    It would take a huge database though and would run very slow.