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Are all public blog networks dangerous?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nauthiz666, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Nauthiz666

    Nauthiz666 Senior Member

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    I've been thinking about this. I see lots of public network postings for sale on the BST forum. But it seems to be me all these networks are flawed by being public. Any network can be deindexed simply by giving reports and being sold here on the BST. Why does anyone buy from these networks, is there really any safety to doing so?
     
  2. Nauthiz666

    Nauthiz666 Senior Member

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    Right but I was talking about networks on the BST. All of them offer reports and are public, so in theory aren't all over them free to be targeted. Why do BST providers open their networks and work to get deindexed so easily?
     
  3. proweb

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    Do you think Google really needs to get a link report from a BST to know which sites are on that network? If you gave me one domain there's a 95% chance I could find all the sites on that network myself and I don't have the same resources Google does.
     
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  4. Smeems

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    ^ This guy gets it.

    You should treat every public link network with caution. Only use them if the risk/reward goes in your favour.

    No one can really say when a network might be targeted, tomorrow, next week, next year - who knows. It's certainly true that some are more "visible" than others, but you should use them all with care.
     
  5. TheLinkGuy

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    Public networks that advertise are a sitting duck.

    Its funny how the primary networks that have BST's or advertise on this forum have been deindexed before, or heck many times. But they think that there new gimmicks are gonna save their new networks.

    Nope. Find networks that don't advertise and aren't greedy.
     
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    Sounds good but could you help me find one?
     
  7. BHopkins

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    Networks that advertise and run their network poorly are sitting ducks. I started creating my network before BMR and ALN went down. I set out to do things different. Here is how you have to create a network to stay under the radar.

    Don't own any of the domains. In my network, I don't own any of the domains. I have two full time guys who contact bloggers and ask them to join the network.

    Only contact existing blogs. You should be looking at existing blogs (like guest posting), and not someone who will buy/create a blog to join your network.

    One blog per person. I get people who try to join my network with 10 blogs. I want diversity, not 10 blogs on the same shared account.

    All copyscape checked content. Every blog post is checked with CopyScape Premium to ensure it's unique.

    No linking to other sites. The blog owners don't know each other and there are never any connections to other sites.

    Complete uniqueness. Every site has a different IP, different registrant information, different registrar, different themes, plugins, etc.

    Different writers. In my network the blogger is responsible for writing their own content. If you order 100 posts, this gives you 100 different writers and is completely unique. Similar writing is a way that Google can track a network.

    I'll leave it at that for now, but traditional networks are dead and dying, the new blog networks are powerful and thriving.
     
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    I would never trust a public network.
     
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    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    And I thought I was paranoid.

    Only joking - you definately know what you're doing
     
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    I got burned by them before, learned my lesson.
     
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    think BMR and ALN, the result is always a G penalty and deindex
    public = just waiting to get banned or penalized
     
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    Ok, google cannot find out your network on its own. However, then network is pretty similar to ALN, but the point 1 still stands.

    The huge problem that still stays is who uses the network. If you sell the posts to everyone, then google employes can order the links. But of you lets say sell these links only to reputable members, there is less chance, but still this is huge forums and i am pretty sure google has good rep account here.

    So, there is pretty much no way to share your blog network with others unless they are your friends, or if you somehow make it illegal for google's workers to joint to the network. Maybe ban google's IP's from all over the world, and ban payments from any payments card/bank or paypal accounts connected with google. Maybe even disallow payment from all the states/countries where google has datacenters.
     
  13. TheLinkGuy

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    If you had more credibility and I knew you I'd probably help you out if you PM'ed me. But no Matt Cutts I won't share that info with you.
     
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    How the fuck is there any benefit in having your site in a spammed out, public blog network?
     
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    I would come pretty close to a pretty solid "yes, they're dangerous". But my idea of dangerous might be a little bit different. If I'm playing with fire to start with (though there are ways to lessen the burn considerably) then I can't expect to be shocked if I get burned, but hell lets face it we're all here for a reason.

    For me the "dangerous" part with public blog networks is the waste of money and time. If I'm testing it on a site (never use anything public like that for a client, ever) of mine or a toss away money site then it's the incredibly weak results and money wasted which I see as most dangerous and bothersome, not getting something deindexed etc...

    My point here? Don't use them in the first place ;)

    FartNuts
     
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    People without experience using PBN's are always negative. People that have used them successfully tend not to share their secrets.