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Anyone RANK BEFORE using BHW link building services for long-term?(not those churn & burn)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jennyxzxz, May 10, 2015.

  1. jennyxzxz

    jennyxzxz Junior Member

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    Hi,

    May i ask if anyone ranked their site using BHW link building services? Is it possible to rank my site using seo services provided in BHW? If so, which sellers or seo providers do you all recommend for quality services or quality links?

    There's plenty of sellers here and i can't make a choice..

    Someone in BHW (not selling service in bhw i think) quoted me $520 per month to rank my site with 5 kws (most difficult kw - around 5000 monthly searches) around 2-3 months on first page. after that i negotiated with him until $230 per month as he said let him show me his service first. He said is white hat strategies and $230 per month is maximizing his resources but cos he wanted to show me his effectiveness of his service first. $230 includes on-page and kws research and off-page.

    What do you guys think? Is it feasible? or should i buy seo services myself in BHW? is it possible to rank? Which service providers do you all recommend good quality services?

    Please advise me thanks guys..
     
  2. testyy

    testyy Regular Member

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    Noone can give a quote and rank unless your website is noncompetitive in which case you wont even break your expenses (520). Every website is different and its all about user experience if you are going for long term.

    Believe it or not, but my main website I ranked myself (after the october penguin update which tanked my previous main website in the same niche) only had a few links from relative websites. The money that you spend on getting spammy links (I'm not saying there aren't good providers, but I would do it myself since noone knows my niche as well as I do) you could spend on improving design, images, plugins etc. With user experience, people will share, link to, and come back to your site instead of your competitors.

    My question to you is what is stopping you building those links? You can simply email and link beg there are endless ways of building super quality links that will stay there forever.

    You need great quality links. Not crappy web20s, links that bring in traffic, even if they are nofollow.
     
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    Krsytal Newbie

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    But is it possible to build links myself? The top 10 positions for my kws all engaged professional seo company to do seo for them.. i dun think i am able to build links myself and win them.. i need to buy links in order to do so.. if not engage some professional? Do you think i should buy links from BHW? Do you know any good quality service providers?
     
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    peetrike Power Member

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    Anyone who knows how to rank on top 90%+ times aren't selling SEO services.
     
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  5. testyy

    testyy Regular Member

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    What makes you think Professional is better than you? You can build links better than professionals since these "professionals don't have a clue" about your needs. As I said it's all about user experience and the correct links now, especially for long term. I'm outranking websites with better links, including links from a top 1 result for the keyword. If you think google doesn't take into account your GA data, you are wrong.

    I can't recommend anyone, I'm sure there are some. The ones I bought links from were crap since my website got penalized but hey this is a blackhatforum.
     
  6. blackhatpc

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    Well I haven't tried any Service Here But I have Heard Good Things About BigBuddy's Service.

    There are many(i.e. Every) Service In BHW Which Will Tell You they will rank your Blog For your keyword but non will Guarantee It as SEO is the second myth after aliens No one Knows which domain will Rank Or Not they just do experiments Fail many times and at last Succeed and then Rinse and Repeat their last Method.

    I Suggest You to do the same " Experiment " and See what Goes and then Rinse and Repeat.

    Conclusion : Try every Service which have +ve Reviews and then see which one suits you best

    Have a Great Day
     
  7. lightningblitz

    lightningblitz Elite Member

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    To rank google has hundreds of factors to determine where you sit. Algos to devalue links, filters to stop spammers, and an eye on velocity. No matter what a service tells you, it is not so cut and dry.

    For a long term project you want to look natural. This means some high power links, some crap links, some social signals, and an increasing velocity every month.

    What I suggest is to pluck out the top rated services with the most 'SERP Ranking' reviews. After that, reverse engineer their method. You will find a lot of services offer either:

    A. The Same Types of Links (Profile, Blog Comment, Web 2.0)
    B. Private Network (PBN, Guest Post, ect)
    C. Manual Outreach (Guest Post on Real Sites)

    For A, you can easily replicate the service.

    For B, you can build your own network.

    For C, you can do the outreach yourself.

    The question is, do you have the 'skill' to do all of this.

    Into perspective, I buy services. I do SEO work myself. I have VA's.

    I have VA's to time consuming tasks. I build properties myself. I outsource work which would cost me more to make myself than the service provider offers.

    For example, if I am ranking an 'authority site' and plan on targeting 1,000's of medium to high competition KWs, my PBN would need me be HUGE to rank all of them. Think about it for a moment, if hypothetically you need 20 links to rank a KW (This is NOT true, just for numbers sake) from a PBN, and you want to rank 1,000 KWs, and to avoid footprints you only have one link per PBN site to the same website, you suddenly find yourself at 20,000 domains in your PBN to ranks the 1K KWs on the same site. This is going to be a little bit costly and insane to manage.

    Putting that into perspective, sometimes it is easier, and safer, to outsource.

    If you are looking for a 'real' SEO Agency, you will not find it buying random links. You may be able to improve ranking with random links, but it is not the same as someone who knows On - Page very well reviewing your site.

    Your best bet? Learn how to do it all yourself. Once you can do everything an Agency can, then you will know where the real 'Value' is at.
     
  8. zx123

    zx123 Senior Member

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    99% of service in the market place are useless or spammy backlinks (that you can found for few $ on fiverr etc)
    98% of reviews are fake (some sellers create other accounts and auto review their thread other exange reviews... some create skype groups to exange reviews... I saw it )
     
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    Vrill BANNED BANNED

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    like posted most services are useless and even harm.The ones which are working are overpriced.

    I would recommend listing your company/product on review websites and dictonaries and after that start content marketing by writing articles including the keyword
    in the article and buy guest posts directly.Will safe you money and you will know its longterm
     
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    I would agree that the best way to go about this is to find SEO providers here on BHW and reverse engineer what they are doing. Pick one type of backlnk or service and learn about it yourself then try to apply it to your site.

    Or maybe pay for it once, get a small sampling to figure out what they're doing. Like anything in IM no one is going to tell you HOW they did something, but you can damn sure try to figure it out yourself!
     
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    Most of the service you find in the marketplace are indeed just crap, there are some that work for a short time until links get deleted or the website just vanish. Some of the sellers are very helpful in replacing the links with new one, but it is an endless game. As already suggested here. Buidling your strategy and links will work best for you in long term.
     
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    sandhiaGB Newbie

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    You can build links yourself, just scour through the different service providers threads and look for genuine reviews. You will get a lot of ideas from them.
     
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  13. jennyxzxz

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    Thanks for all the reply here.

    Many of you mentioned building the links myself. May i ask what type of links is it? Is it those links (as below?)
    1) Web 2.0 Properties
    2) High Authority backlinks
    3) Social Media Sharings
    4) Social Networking Sites Links
    5) Social Media Sites Links
    6) Press Release Distribution and Brand Awareness
    7) Forums only niche and related posts
    8) Blog comments
    9) Article Submission
    10) PDF Submission
    11) Image Sharing Sites
    12) Parasites Submission
    13) Infographic sharing sites
    14) Video optimization and sharing sites 15) Guest posts 16) is PBN needed?
    If i want to rank for my site, do i need blackhat software such as GSA or sape links? Or what other type of links do you guys recommend.

    Do you guys solely build links yourself or do you guys buy some good seo services in BHW too?
     
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    jennyxzxz Junior Member

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    Anyone can advise on my question above? :(
     
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    The only services that are good are the SAPE ones. There are some other ones that work well, but they are way overpriced.
     
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    He explicit asked for none "churn n burn" ...
     
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    SAPE can last for several months. No service will have you ranking for decades.
     
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    SAPE Links- is it possible to have buffer (such as web 2.0) and pass the link juice to my money site? Is this safe or?? or not recommend to touch SAPE links at all?
     
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    There is no such thing as a guaranteed service to get you to the front page. I would recommend trying to build the links yourself first, but even then, it's still going to cost you money. SEO isn't free, even when you do it yourself.

    I've tested out plenty of people here and elsewhere. Some good, average and others just terrible.

    I won't name/shame anyone though, as there could be many reasons why some people couldn't rank my sites.

    I rank small niches, across lots of sites, and have stuck to a couple of reliable SEO guys.

    You might want to check a thread I put up some time ago. I still use the same SEO.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-my-100-300-day-easy-money-making-method.html

    Before hiring anyone, it's better to learn yourself though. My 2 cents :)
     
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  20. jennyxzxz

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    Hi edgaro160,

    Really thanks for your reply in my thread. Great thread on your strategies of link building via seoclerks.com.

    1) Do you still personally use those seo service today in 2015? (that helped you to rank in google? If possible, what is the monthly search and kw competitiveness?)

    2) May i ask other than seoclerks.com, do you purchase other seo services in other marketplace too? (that have quality / positive result) , such as in BHW? Can you recommend me if you have any? If it is not possible to state here, perhaps you could PM me.

    3) I saw that you have posted 3 services in your thread, 1 of it is the forum posting for $5, however, the link do not exist now. Do you have others that you can recommend me from buying?

    4) Also, other than the 3 services that you use in seoclerks, any other services that you personally feel that it is good too? (for ranking in google in 2015)

    Hope that you could solve some of my doubts and help me. really would appreciate your help as i am trying to rank my local website .. :dunno:

    Thanks in advance!
     
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