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Anyone Know Muy Thai?

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  1. UndeniableSpirit

    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    What's up guys,

    I'm a fairly athletic guy (basketball player)

    But it just occurred to me last night (almost got my ass kicked at the bar for talking to the 'wrong girl') that I don't know fuck all about fighting and such.

    I used to be a brown belt in a form of Karate called Chito Ryu (or something like that) but that was before I quit at the age of 15 lol.

    Does anyone train in fighting styles such as Muy Thai?

    Can anyone suggest some fun but practical martial arts that I should begin training in again?

    It seems like a practical skill that I must learn.
     
  2. jedediahd

    jedediahd Junior Member

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    I trained muay thai and MMA for some time, before it was super popular and I actually haven't fought since 2005 though I do still train just not at a super high intensity. Muay thai is awesome and fun. If your in a good gym, you will gt a better workout than you do on the treadmill and lifting weights, and it's extremely fun. The fun part is progressing and learning techniques, sparring and putting them into action. I would say Muay Thai and submission grappling are your two best bets for fun/conditioning/practicality. Just be aware that traditional thai boxing schools are hardcore, and it is a contact sport/hobby.
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Alright thanks a lot for the information man. Yeah, I've been doing a little research on it and it seems like it's going to be what I train in.

    I'll probably have to put basketball to the side for a little bit and just immerse myself in muy thai. It should be a good time though!
     
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    Bar fights are two punches tops before it gets broken up and the cops come. Just learn how to hit hard and throw the first punch and you'll be good.
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Yeah man that's true. I guess I'd like to do something like this for fun as well.

    And you never know the situations your going to be presented with.
     
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    TermsB Senior Member

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    You'll get your ass kicked more in a bar for trying to fight like Jackie Chan than you will for hitting on any girl.
     
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    If someone was fighting like Jackie Chan I don't think anyone would want to mess with the person.
     
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    MT is great but its usefulness depends on your body size. For example, my arms are almost as long as my legs, so why bother kicking as much as MT demands? It's also designed to wear the opponent down. Streetfights don't usually last very long. MMA/BJJ is expensive and not necessarily good in a streetfight because you normally have to be able to stay up on your feet, so half of your training time would be wasted (on groundfighting). Krav Maga is self defense oriented, they teach you how to stay up on your feet (sprawl) or recover to an upright position, so you don't have to worry too much about groundfighters (not going to debate this here...) It will be easy for you to pick up quickly if you studied Shito Ryu since KM is just an application of strategies and tactics to your already entrained stand up fighting skills. And they will come back. It's - quite literally- just like riding a bike.

    Find a Krav center here:
    moya.liquidweb.com/~kravmaga/index.php?option=com_xtremelocator&Itemid=80

    BTW, I've studied two styles of Karate, TKD, Kickboxing, Hapkido and Judo. Judo kicks ass but takes too long to get good at. You can be competent in Krav in a few months.
     
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    djedje70 Regular Member

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    none of ur fr#$%ing biz dude!!!
    I used to train in Kakuto Karate and MT as well. I disagree with everyone saying it will be wasted in a brawl. MT is very efficient for close combat as you'll learn how to use both your knees and elbows. Trust me when I say a bar fight is over very quickly when you can deflect the other guy's punch and then thrown your elbow in his face. Been there, done that...
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Yes, you are totally right...

    I really appreciate the info man. I'm going to learn a little more about Krav Maga before jumping into MT

    I also have some long ass arms (great for basketball haha)

    Yeah, that's what attracted me to MT in the first place. Using your elbows and knees while also being trained on how to deflect hits can end fights in a hurry.
     
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    18 years of Muay Thai training/coaching here.
    Great art and VERY useful, but streetfighting is just plain stupid. Unless...
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    I couldn't agree more. I'm never one to pick fights. It's absolutely stupid.

    See, I'm a really outgoing guy and love meeting new people (especially women) when I'm out. I'm not stupid about it though. If I find out she's got a boyfriend I back off and move on. It seems lately that I'm getting targeted more and more because of my personality.

    It's usually the huge drunk guys who don't have any game with women and just want to take it out on someone (I'm pretty short at about 5'10)

    I think learning how to fight efficiently and effectively is something that every man should have knowledge of.
     
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    Using your brain and your words together will keep you out of trouble. Its much easier to talk your way out of problem if you kill em with kindness.

    Most times, the dog with the big bark has no bite.
     
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    I'm all for learning to defend yourself and I do think MT is a great skill set and would help in most street fights. But, a street fight has elements you don't have to worry about when sparring or in a cage. Street fights have things like weapons, buddies helping the other guy out, hard pavement to fall on, sucker punches, drunk participants and jail time consequences. I hate to walk away from some asshole but 9 times out of 10 if you can walk away, walk.
     
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    Muay Thai is a great fighting art. Learn to throw powerful punches and elbows in barfights. Best case scenerio would be to clinch and throw knees being a basketball player I'd assume you have some height. In any case though walk away first.

    And don't forget the current UFC lmw champ is Lyoto Machida a karate practitionar.
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Yeah those are two very good points. I'm not the kind of guy who feels he needs to prove himself by kicking th shit out of someone. Up until now I've always gotten out of scraps by simply talking my way out.

    I want to learn because there may come a time where I cannot talk my way out of a situation or simply walk away.

    Example: Someone I know said "Hey" to a girl on the street and got his ass kicked by three guys. They even kicked his face in when he was on the ground.

    Is something like MT going to prevent that from ever happening? Probably not. But at the very least it will prepare me for it and give me somewhat of a chance to make it out in one piece.

    On the topic of weapons: It's just fucked. It seems like everyone has a knife or something these days.
     
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    I just hit on the fat girls. I got laid and nobody cared I took her home.
     
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    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Hahahaha that's too funny man lol.
     
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    You might be better off learning techniques that are specific for streetfighting

    and disabling attackers. The kind of techniques that the cops use to subdue

    suspects that fight back.

    Check this link:

    PHP:
    http://www.paladin-press.com/category/74
    You might want to get this book, it will bring you up to speed fast.

    A BOUNCER'S GUIDE TO BARROOM BRAWLING
    Dealing With The Sucker Puncher, Streetfighter, And Ambusher
    by Peyton Quinn

    As a bouncer in a biker bar and a participant in dozens of fights, Peyton Quinn knows the difference between fighting fact and fantasy. The result is a unique guide to self-defense that can save your ass in places where brawling is quick, dirty and very violent.

    Peyton Quinn is the dean of barroom brawling. He began his training in formal martial arts systems in 1964, eventually achieving rank in karate, judo and aikido. While he continues to respect and explore Asian martial arts systems, his real-world experience has shown him that for most people, training in martial arts alone is not enough for real fighting.

    Or this One:

    TAKING IT TO THE STREET
    Making Your Martial Art Street Effective
    by Marc "Animal" MacYoung

    Most real fights are short, fast and brutal. And there are no rules. The martial artist who thinks he's trained to handle what's coming may be in for a painful surprise. But this isn't one of those books about bringing your martial art up to street speed that rips on everything you've worked so hard to learn. It's a book on taking your moves and making them fast, fanged and fierce enough to stand up to a surprise attack. Ex-streetfighter Marc "Animal" MacYoung knows from experience that no matter how much training they've had, most people get overwhelmed in the first critical seconds of a streetfight. And it's nearly impossible to get over the shock of being attacked and organize a viable response while someone is tap dancing on your face.

    With photos, illustrations and detailed instructions, Animal brings the martial artist from the structured safety of the dojo to the mayhem of the street, alley and biker bar. He teaches you the quickest ways to get your attacker off his feet; how to do bulletproof blocks and throws; how to anticipate a strike and how to make a kicker howl. He also gives you important tips on what to do after a brawl, because such issues as legalities, revenge seekers and your own mental well-being last long after the fight is over. Anyone who's ever wondered if his or her martial arts training would hold up to a real-life attack needs to read this book.

    Marc "Animal" MacYoung knows the ins and outs of American violence. He is the author of many books and has appeared in countless videos on street violence and self-defense for Paladin. Reading his books and watching his videos will save you a lot of hassles and a lot of hurt.
     
  20. UndeniableSpirit

    UndeniableSpirit Regular Member

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    Just checked out the website. It looks interesting. Thanks for the suggestion man.