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Anyone Interested in getting into online casino business?

Discussion in 'Joint Ventures' started by rippy, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. rippy

    rippy Regular Member

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    So we are a small group of programers that developed a beautifule looking casino software, small number of games, 20, but enough to start, then we will work on new games.

    We have everything ready, website, payments, processing ....

    Our problem is our SEO "expert" :)
    He is giving us some hard time, Man cant seems to strat working on domain :) and i will give him another 48 hours to see him work and then he is off the project.


    So i wanted to ask you guys, if someone here is interested in this project?

    I wont say the casino domain here in public, but here is the deal that is on offer for our current "SEO expert".

    He guarantees us to make our site in under 80 000 Alexa.com within 2-3 months. 10 000 visits per day from real visits within 30 days. a lot of backlinks, by not using some technick that will get us banned :)

    1)Our part of the deal is, $2500 afther we see results.
    2)We will rent the software to him, so he can make his own online casino with his company logo, processing ... his share is 75%, he will be paying us 25%.

    This is an awsome deal, as we plan on renting a casino software for 20 000e as a setup fee, and then a share of 25% for us.

    If anyone here is interested in this offer, please PM me, i'd like to hear your ideas.
    I need top of the line SEO.

    I am not guaranteeing a place for work, but if our current "SEO expert" :) dosnt do a thing i am in need of chaing him ASAP.


    Also if i really like your offer, there is always room for another software rent.
     
  2. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    My question is now.

    What kind of experience do you guys have in running an online casino.
    If you think that you can compete with the big boys with regular SEO methods then your simply wrong there or your SEO guy/gal has been pulling your fingures.

    Casinos have 1000s of domains point to theres domain by cloaked redirect and so forth.
    The competition is so high that just building something for your main domain that won't get you banned is pretty impossible. specially if your target is 10.000 uniqes a day.

    So please read on a little bit about seo for betting and casino and then offer your deal again.

    Seoing of a betting is a full time job, noway is it possible to achieve what you want if your paying $2500 for the person that can do this for you.

    Either this person can't and don't know what he is putting him/her self into or is trying to screw you on the money.

    That would be my opinion.

    Kandor
     
  3. rippy

    rippy Regular Member

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    Well of course we cant match the 888 or gambingclub campaign nor that is our idea.
    We are a small private operation, and a casino like this can make 20-30 000 / month no problems.

    I was one of the referback super affiliates before the us legislation, I also have some SEO knowledge. And i also have few domains that are a prime gambling domains that easily sell for $10 000 just for the name, i am in this business for about 8 years.


    Of course, buying 100 lousy domains to do some black tricks is no problem.
     
  4. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Uh, you gusy and gals do know that US citizens cannot, by federal law, own any part of an internet casino and that even discussing such a thing can be considered a felony; spcifically, conspiracy to violate The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006!

    One week after the Act went into effect, the feds arrested David Carruthers, CEO of online gaming company Bet On Sports:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2006-07-18-online-gaming_x.htm

    The text of the law may be found here:

    http://www.playwinningpoker.com/online/poker/legal/uigea/

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    The Act naturally makes ISPs and financial institutions liable if they actually operate illegal gambling sites themselves.

    http://www.casinocitytimes.com/article.cfm?ContentAndContributorID=30106

    Since BHW can be considered an ISP under the law, you are making BHW liable as well.

    Nice idea but dangerous and illegal as Hell for US citizens and what with the use of the "long arm" statutes which the feds are so willing to use, a very bad idea for you as well.
     
  5. kandor

    kandor Regular Member

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    I am glad to hear that you know your business then.

    But then $2500 for 3 month work is pretty low, don't you agree?
    And the SEO work for such a page can still not be done on only one domain, in my opinion at least.

    Kandor

     
  6. rippy

    rippy Regular Member

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    I am far far away from the US, so is the company owing the casino, all the papers and licences are in place. Of course, US players are knife with two blades.


    As far as the BHW conser, sorry if that is true, but BHW is not on this project in any way, it's a free forum where people can discuss what ever thay want.


    "Thay" are also very not interested in a guy who did a SEO, but in a guy who own's a company and run's it.
     
  7. rippy

    rippy Regular Member

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    Kandor, you dont understand our offer.

    We are willing to pay $2500 wich should be considered as a payment for investment done in a work by a SEO guy, but we will also give that person software lease to won his own casino, wich we will be charging 20 000euro's for a setup fee.

    So the person will need to open offshore company, bank account, merchant account, licence ... ( Of course we will help in all of does ) and then he will be using our games and he will own his own casino business.
     
  8. kandor

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    Sorry for that.
    I am sick today, having a temperature and all.
    So I did miss that part.

    But hope that you get a good partner for the seo work, and you should reconsider the offer somehow as I think you will need this SEO person full time, not just to begin with.

    Kandor

     
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    lol.
    OR any self respecting seo, would download one of the billion gambling site templates available;SEO it himself, and make 100-200X that amount.
     
  10. rippy

    rippy Regular Member

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    Man, as an affiliate you earn 25%, 35% TOP's, with me you earn 75%.
     
  11. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    What country is issuing the casino licences?