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Anyone here from ARGENTINA? New law will make online purchases almost impossible...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by euros123dotcom, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. euros123dotcom

    euros123dotcom Junior Member

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    ...the government is imposing heavy limitations on online shoppers in Argentina. Foreign currency reserves (US Dollar) are the lowest in years and now they want to stop the bleeding with the enforcement of a existing law.

    If I understood this correctly, online shoppers have a limit of 25 US$ for online purchases. If they exceed and still order something online, then they need to go to the local customs office, fill out some forms, wait in line for 4 hours or something, pay 50% import tax on any item and get their parcel out.

    Fuck governments and their meddling with citizens Life!

    Anyway, would like to hear from people actually living there how this is affecting your Life (if at all) and how this could become a business opportunity for everyone (maybe not, but hey, lets see what Blackhatters have to say). I am spinning a couple of ideas already.

    This is a clear example of the need for something like Bitcoin. I could imagine that Argentinians would exchange "something" to earn Bitcoins and then go onto a similar website like Amazon and pay in Bitcoins. Just don't know how to circumvent Argentinean customs office.
     
  2. euros123dotcom

    euros123dotcom Junior Member

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    This could be a genius business venture (even more in the future):

    https://all4btc.com/

    (Not promoting them. I never used these services myself, so beware. Just found this through Google. Services like this could spread like wildfire, if Governments continue to f*** around).
     
  3. Andres1986

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    Hey, Argentinian Here.

    Abroad online shopping has been pretty hard for quite some time now. It's nothing new. And as you correctly say, there are two barriers you need to circunvent: paying for the item (dollars usage is very limited here) and "skipping" customs once the product arrives to not get killed by taxes.

    For the second one you pretty much need to know an insider otherwise there's no way around on getting things inside the country, specially electonics.

    For the first barrier, we have a workaround with Paypal, Payoneer, etc. We CAN create Paypal accounts for example, but getting money in (i.e: deposit) to later spend on Ebay or whatever is impossible due to the mentioned USD restrictions we have going on here. But this is where local IMers like me chip in:

    All my IM earnings get to me via Paypal (which is the only way an Argentinian resident can have Paypal money: by getting it directly from another PP account). As the USD restriction also applies to withdrawing dollars from local banks, the only way I have to get my Paypal cash money out is by selling it to other Argentinians who need it to buy stuff abroad. That is: they give me pesos, I send them my Paypal dollars to their accounts or buy the item directly for them in X website, we circunvent one barrier and we all win in that way.
     
  4. elbigotontito

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    Hey buddys, Cordoba here
    what i did was to link the the Paypal acc to a US Payment and then you can withrdraw the money of payoneer, obviusly in uruguay.
    another way Link Paypal with US bank acc and withdraw with the credit card they gave you
    cheers!
     
  5. mxrtxn

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    Hey a "Chilean" guy here.

    I don´t get how the argentinian people allows Cristina the "Crazy" to run your lives... I mean why don´t you protest or something...
    Argentina is such a rich country, you have oil, the best meat, the 8th biggest country in the world by surface, etc, etc, but you have this "cleptocracia" that fucks you up everysingle time even with Memen...
    Well to be honest we have our corrupt politics here in Chile. So I won´t go further about that....

    About the 50 tax rate that will only promote "contrabando" from Chile and the other neighboor countries.
    Have have a TLC with USA, Japan, China.. and several other countries so this could, potentially, be an opportunity to import electronics or other needed items to sell to argentinians... who knows..

    Other thing would be sending money from third parties, but that would be too risky...

    I wish you my argentinian brothers the best of luck. I guess you will need it as long as the Morocha is in the pink palace....


    P.S. At least you have "free education" in Chile we have expensive and bad education in one... and no, there´s no free education here.

    Martin
     
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  6. bartosimpsonio

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    Hola guys. Just move to the Caribbean man, nobody gives a fuck about any import laws, you can open a bank account in your dog's social security number and life's good ;)
     
  7. mxrtxn

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    Just curious which part of the caribbean man?

    I suppose not Socialist Cuba...
     
  8. TailorMade

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    That will extremely bad for the economy.... sorry to hear that.
     
  9. YouFeelMeDawg?

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    What a goldfish's social security. Do you think that would work?
     
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    Anywhere in the Caribbean is great. They really want your money.
     
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    mxrtxn Newbie

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    Ok so I will take it as anywhere in the caribbean except Cuba and Haiti...
     
  12. mxrtxn

    mxrtxn Newbie

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    By the way I read the news about the stupid measures of the argentinian government:

    hxxp://www.lanacion.com.ar/1647319-para-cuidar-los-dolares-traban-las-compras-por-internet

    It´s in Spansh so use Google Translate if you wanna read it.

    The guys who buy stuff from online sites such as Alibaba will have to declare themselves as importers and add more bureaucratic bs... to "protect their dollar"... f*ck that..

    As I said before this will only incentivize "contrabando" from neighbor countries such as Chile...

    Who knows maybe in the "making money" section of the BHW will appear a method of going to Argentina to sell stuff they cannot get online...

    I wish this nonsense ends soon my argetinian brothers, hope "Cristina La Loca" resigns soon...
     
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    What about going to Chile buy the stuff here and bring back to Argentinga trought the road Santiago-Mendoza.?

    Other whay would be to buy it online have it send to a chilean courrier site go to Chile pay the import tax, which is less than Argentina, an take the items back with you to Argentina...


    Oh maybe is too much hassle. Perhaps you could something similar with Uruguay or Brazil...
     
  15. muypirata

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    Hi folks, another Argentine over here (cordoba)
    Actually the situation in Argentina is pretty bad in general. But with the restrictions on foreign purchases affect us more to some than to others. This will be my fifth year living of IM. Part of my profits for the IM destined purchase overseas and reselling here in Argentina. So changing the least amount of dollars for pesos as @Andres1986 says. With resales lived tight. But we could live and save as many dollars as possible (which taught us the history of Argentina)
    Obviously restrictions changed that situation. But Argentines are accustomed to crisis and we always, always adapt.
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    Hola gente, otro argentino por aca (cordoba)
    Realmente la situacion en argentina esta bastante mal, en general. Pero con las limitaciones a las compras en el exterior nos afecto mas a unos que a otros. Este va a ser mi quinto año viviendo de IM. Y una parte de mis ganancias de IM la destinaba a la compra en el exterior y revendiendo aca en Argentina. Asi cambiaba la menor cantidad posible de dolares por pesos como dice @Andres1986. Con las reventas vivia ajustado. Pero podiamos vivir y ahorrar la mayor cantidad de dolares que fuera posible (algo que nos enseño la historia argentina)
    Las restricciones cambiaron esa situacion. Pero los argentinos estan acostumbrados a las crisis y siempre, siempre nos adaptamos.
     
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    mxrtxn Newbie

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    Solo por curiosidad.

    ¿Cuanto tiempo le queda a Cristina en el poder como Presidenta?
     
  17. muypirata

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    2 años todavia. Y sin elecciones en el 2014 va a ser un año complicado... mira lo que esta pasando a esta altura y recien empieza
     
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    move to Chile , great country to live
    more expensive than argentina do
    not problems with dollars/paypal/ebay etc
     
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    i have some business in argentina and when its time to pay me, its hard due the sending limitation, even western union have limit sending from argentina