Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spectrejoe, Apr 27, 2014.
Anyone got any? By successful I mean one that isn't a churn and burn and has 50k+ visitors monthly
Why are you asking?
I'm on my way to that ! I'm ranking very good for few keywords without any link building. Now, i have around 500 visits / day. WEbsite is kinda new, from january, but working on the content . The income increase with 200-300% every month. In january 1$, feb 8$, in march was 22$, now 62$.
The CTR is not so good, i think my theme sux xD
Because I have a few questions if you don't mind
OP,You should also add the question too. I have 3 such sites. I guess 50k/mo is a very small number. There will be many here who get that many visitors daily.
50K monthly is not really huge... I have several sites that kill that number that are in the business and financial areas. I guess they could be considered authority sites.... 2K + pages, all unique content, been around for a few years.
Ask your questions in this thread though so all can benefit.
i don't think it is possible with "churn n burn" ! Before you reach a decent level to have that kind of traffic flow to your site ... you will be kicked out already !
very realistic. authority sites means you have much content, and much traffic. And with many pages of quality content, you can expect an equivalent high amount of traffic. sure many BHW's have more than 50k
Well I consider that big dog since 50k monthly is enough to net you a few k$ per month.
Well these are my questions.
1- When you first started how did you build backlinks? What velocity?
2- I want to build a authority website about all the niches I can think about (all Whitehat but let's say , Finance, News , Woman , Men , Trends , Health ,etc) Is it fine to choose a random easy to remember domain name and use it as keyword and domain?
3- For that kind of authority website I just mentioned above, it would take me ages to get any money at the start because I am not targetting any specific niche with my Homepage so my sub domains won't have any DA/PA since it's also a new domain and won't rank well , which means I won't be making any money until I get some authority and backlinks going, how would you suggest my backlinking campaign to be? I know homepage MUST have more backlinks than the posts , however I also need to make backlinks to the posts but if I make too many backlinks daily I also can get penalized, so I never know how many backlinks I should be making for homepage and posts..
I have no idea as it was a few years back when I started those sites.
My homepages have very little in comparison to the inner pages when it comes to backlinking as I am not trying to rank the home page. your backlinking should be very random and toss out the window all that crap about link velocity having to be XYZ.
Build links in a way that would be considered natural. Build the site correctly and you will have links from Wikipedia, eHow, etc eventually as those guys link back to decent sites.
For an authority site your eyes should be set on KWs and content more than backlinking.
First of all you need not call a website authority,if it makes a few K $/month. You can have a website making 10k$/month after month and it can be just few pages website.
Authority website means you should be an authority over the topic. So,you first focus on building some value to visitors and then on backlinking. You can become authority only either you are expert on topic or a lot of passion/capital to invest. So,choose accordingly.
Think of it as a business model and try to build monetization not only in terms of $ but building a email list/social media followers etc. Done right,it can be a permanent money machine.
I would advise to choose a niche where you need not be a Google slave forever ie there is a network-effect angle to it. Say,something like BHW
About SEO, ranking is the easiest part but ranking for long term is tough challenge. What people call safe (PBN etc) today,it may not be so after 2 years. It is just a gamble. You need to have at least few thousands $ budget,if you wanna rank for decent term with ultra low risk links. If you have low $ to burn,better build up your wealth from churn-burn sites.
I see people talking about authority sites all the time and it seems to me that authority just means a big site to some people.
Authority site mean to be an authority on a subject. A respected website with good,relevent content for the specific search terms you are targeting.
I admire your ambition but trying to rank for several large search terms is just going to be impossible. Even some of the areas you have mentioned above would take a team of several writers working on for a long time to get any traction.
I would suggest have a rethink. Focus on one area of expertise. Do extensive research and find 50+ keywords for that niche. Try to become an established authority in that specific area and then try to build outwards.
I said those niches as an example, I won't be focusing on high competitive keywords I will breakdown keywords into levels until I find keywords with 5-15k monthly searches and those are the ones I will target depending on difficulty
When I talk about authority websites I mean websites that have high authority to google a website that google knows that has great content and will be a high standards website for google and will be far easier to rank each post than making a new domain for each niche and having 1 or 2 pages about it (landing page).
I don't really like churn and burn because my GSA is fucked up and even with AA list it can't go over 30 LPM which is kinda low for Churn and burn (only 2-5k links daily)
You can rank for decent kws churn/burn for $50-100ish with blogposts. No need of millions of links.
For the kind of authority sites you are talking,buy expiring/expired non spammed domain in same niche if possible. Then try to buy/beg/swap/bait links till you reach the target. Else,build a 30-50ish PBN and rank for a medium comp kws and then scale.
My 3 blogspot blogs each get around 80+ visitor per months...
someone would say that SEJ is authority site in SEO niche, but I think that's the worst SEO sites out there. Yet, they are constantly in the top cause Google thinks they have great (read- rehashed trash) content
From what I've seen you don't even need backlinks when you have quality content, they help but they are not needed
Oh, come on! Shut up about "big dog" shit already, people hate that term on BHW already since one member was using it all over the place to measure his dick.
You really don't need them for a huge site that targets a niche and is diversified in that niche; generally when I post on one of my bigger sites the post is on the first page of Google inside of hours without and backlinks.
I do back link the posts after a bit but never right away as that is not natural.
As to whether they are considered authority sites I can't say as that is an arbitrary term in my opinion.
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