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Anyone ever tried to Neg SEO a Wikipedia page

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nickeberle, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. nickeberle

    nickeberle Regular Member

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    Like the title says anyone ever put an algorithmic penalty on a wikipedia page?
     
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    Theres a journey thread here a member made on doing such an experiment with a wikipedia page last year. Don't know if it's still around here. Should be. Think the member is banned now though.

    He threw a crapload of SB spam to the wikipedia page but it didn't budge at all. 100s of thousands.
     
  3. LeonTheProfessional

    LeonTheProfessional Newbie

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    It would be much easier to actually get other 10 websites to outrank Wikipedia and drop below first page.
    Unless you would edit the page and make it less SEO friendly.
    afaik links for website like Wikipedia - bad or good - can only help.
     
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    I don't know that I would consider neg'ing wikipedia as a good use of time. Just out-rank it. Depending on the keyword, you could also just do positive SEO for the sites that rank immediately under wikipedia currently.
     
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    Interesting thread. Well, may be some on has tried that already but i don't think that -ve seo really works with something like wikipedia.
     
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    Fun idea but I would think it's impossible (or least veeeeery difficult todo). I've never dabbled in negative SEO myself and never been in niches where it was an issue, but from what I've heard others say it works best on new/weak domains with little authority. If you can build so many bad links that they become the majority of links for that domain it may work, but for a site with millions of good, natural links it won't.
     
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    Kralj187 Senior Member

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    You can't do NEG seo to authority sites
     
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    Someone has already tried it a year ago as mentioned above. I still remember he did this on Wikipedia, Govt site and regular wordpress site. Both got affected by Google penalty but nothing happen to wikipedia even it gets more strong.
     
  9. MixerDJ

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    google trust wikipedia.even you you do neg seo google know that's spammer attack and google won't kill wiki page.you try to make some authority to your site.
     
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    Yeah, it is blind trust. Absolutely, ridiculous because Wikipedia has many facts wrong. Google's philosophy "as long as many people like it, it must be right" is funny.
     
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    BULLSHIT - I have negged Tripadvisor pages
     
  14. Archemike

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    I wouldn't say Tripadvisor is a macro authority site but an authority site for the travel niche. One page would definitely be negable. Keep in mind it's alexa 6 vs 210 for tripadvisor so several magnitudes higher for WIkipedia in the algorithm. So yes, you should be able to do this for TrapAdvisor but not Wikipedia, as an abstract answer.

    Also, not sure why you'd ever use neg as a strategy, perhaps OP could share? But when there's a moz score of .7 or .8 and you've only got 50 even high quality backlinks you still wouldn't be close even after the neg of being sorted to a higher rank. Choose a less competitive keyword in that niche, or just man up and rank it the right way. But things like yelp, wiki, google plus, etc... impervious to negging.
     
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    Very very unlikely to succeed with that. and even if you did, Im sure they would be straight on to it anyway. Better just to try and rank a site above it, which is probably pretty difficult as well, but not impossible.
     
  16. partymarty4870

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    3 reasons

    1. because I didn't like the page content
    2. because I can
    3. because the karma is OK

    as for TA not being an authority site?? what fucking planet are you on??
     
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    You can't neg rep a site whose owner knows what he is doing.
     
  18. nickeberle

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    Figured as much. Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm ranked #2 right below Wikipedia now, I'll take the top spot in time it's just if I took them out I would be the only non product page in the top 5. That is better for traffic than being number 1 with Wikipedia #2.
     
  19. bananaman5000

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    when i used to mass post with scrapebox i would test with the keyword "laser collimator" on cnn.com just as an experiment to see if i could rank it for something easy. it had zero effect, it never ranked
     
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    Yeah, don't think you can neg seo an authority site. It may actually help them. bananaman5000- cool experiment