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Anyone ever heard of an ever cookie ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jujubee3422, May 30, 2011.

  1. jujubee3422

    jujubee3422 Power Member

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    Anyone ever heard of an ever cookie ?

    Is this a new tracking cookie thats out ??

    I was trying to make some social media accounts and was told by a friend that my accounts mught be dying due to an ever cookie ??

    Any advice ??
     
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    google "flash cookies"
     
  3. godsfriend

    godsfriend Registered Member

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    A few weeks ago, I tried to get some insights from here about HTML5 an Suoercookies.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/297507-html5-supercookies.html

    Isn't the time yet. We have to wait, until everything will be tracked, and the whiners want some new solutions.

    Some more info about the Evercookie thing:
    1) http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Killing-the-zombie-cookie-1123151.html

    2) http://samy.pl/evercookie/

    Btw. Evercookies aren't Flash Cookies. It's another method. Youtube and ebay use them to store user settings, like country, language etc. Flash cookies are set by Adobe Flash'movies' - as the name says. You can observe & kill them perfect with the Firefox plugin 'Betterprivacy'.

    But Supercookies and HTML5 opened a complete new door, where tracking solutions are an advertisers wet dream. At the moment I personal don't know any defense strategies.
     
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    Just as a quick test, I went to this URL:
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    [URL="http://anonym.to/?http://samy.pl/evercookie/"]http://samy.pl/evercookie/[/URL]
    
    as provided by godsfriend, and set an "evercookie" in my browser.

    I closed out the browser, revisited the URL, and as expected the cookie was still set.

    I then opened up a private browser & the cookie did not persist (it couldn't be found anywhere). I set an "evercookie" in the browser using private browser. Waited until it showed as detected, then closed out my browser, reopened my browser & went back to private browsing and re-visited the URL...the cookie did not persist.

    I then went back to non-private browsing, where the cookie from the original test still did persist. I ran ccleaner (free software that you can download here:
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    http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
    ) and then refreshed the page...the cookie did not persist.

    In other words, I don't see where this new "super cookie" is any better than any other cookie when you're using the methods you should be using to retain your privacy.

    If they can be overcome by two of the easiest solutions I know of (private browsing & ccleaner) then there is really nothing to worry about.
     
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    Thanks crazyflx for the analysis - IE 8 and 9 come with an option called InPrivate browsing which is quite helpful. I always use it when I use the Internet.

    There are a few plugins for Firefox that do the same.
     
  6. godsfriend

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    Not to be too pessimistic, but it works with this first example from the developper. My concerns are about new storage locations / methods.
    Only in this method he uses 13 storage techniques.

    In a serious seo-magazine (paper / real world :D) I read a quote from an advertiser who talks about using cookies for measuring success. He said: "Even if LSO/Flashcookies will be killed, we will use Evercookies which are the most adhesive".

    So these techniques are todays tools for the industry.

    I wouldn't wonder if the cloud servers from google, fb and amazon use them.