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Anyone banking hard because of a loophole?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by miedy, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. miedy

    miedy Senior Member

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    Is anyone here banking hard because of some website glitch or loophole? why I ask? nah, just wanted to know... I just want to know if this is possible, and I won't pm you to ask for more details :)

    Have you found it yourself? some friend shared it? you bought it?

    I wonder how some guys able to discover this loopholes, I know someone bragging about a websites loophole which he claimed making him $XX,XXX per day and I'm quite hesitant to believe this since this is pretty huge amount yet I'm still super jealous and he don't have any reason to lie.... darn....
     
  2. CaptinAmerica

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    There are lots and you might be able to make $xx,xxx per day with the right niche. I personally have not found any niches that make that amount. It's a lot of testing and the ability to burn some cash and time. But if you can get things rolling you can mess around more with trying to find these loop holes. Just like any business there are so not so ethical ways to get to the top.

    CA
     
  3. Gary Becks

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    There's loopholes everywhere. And this is a pointless thread because the only answer anyone can give is yes.
     
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  4. Gary Becks

    Gary Becks Power Member

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    The key is not only in the niches, or SEO when it comes to quick online money , all of the money is being made via ppc , big affiliate launches , and spamming high traffic social sites that have no security measures in place.
     
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  5. Getwhatchuwant

    Getwhatchuwant Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I found a loophole and I dont mind sharing it because most people wont be savvy enough to take advantage of it.


    Hard Work.
     
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  6. Chees

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    yes he has a reson to lie - many possible reasons like trying to sell his product that he claims to exploit that loophole
     
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    So what is it then?
     
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    Not banked *hard* but found a loophole in a new adnetwork where I managed to get $120 of free advertising :D.
     
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    Isn't 99% of how we make money online because of a loophole?

    We find a loophole in FB, Twitter, CL, etc and game them.

    We find a loophole in the search engines algorithms and we game them.

    We find a loophole in Amazon to rank #1 for XYZ product and we game them.

    Heck, I'm going to name my next dog "Loophole"!
     
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  10. miedy

    miedy Senior Member

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    he's not even trying to sell it... he just keep on bragging and bragging posting screenshot of his earnings of the day...
     
  11. randomblackguy

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    maybe that loophole is a photoshop guy...
     
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  12. miedy

    miedy Senior Member

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    Good for you, me myself found a little loophole about a product that is paid on monthly basis via paypal sub about 50$/month but I pay only 9$/month...
     
  13. randomblackguy

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    entropay for the win!
     
  14. Whisker

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    I suppose my answer would be "Yes". If you ask where you'll find an exploit, and not which vector/method is used to discover it, chances are you won't be finding much or be able to take advantage of the said exploit even if you were to find out about it.

    For example, if I said a particular domain vulnerable to an sqli, would you know what to do with that? If I said a particular platform's adserver is giving a lot of overages, would you know what that meant and what to do? What about if a social platform's follow/message amount was not rated for one of their mobile app apis? How would you go about finding the requests within their api given it's undocumented and protected by security? How do you stumble upon these things without using the systems outside of an internet marketing rumor?

    You need not only a regular understanding of what you're trying to find an exploit for, but an expert understanding, in many cases more understanding than the creators of the service/api/platform you are trying to find a vulnerability for. That's why it's an exploit, you've discovered something that the creators themselves haven't thought about. These can be major oversights in programming logic a lot of the time, or just a crafty individual who finds a hole, but nevertheless, it requires a high level understanding of the target.

    You can hear about this stuff all day, but there's really not much of an advantage other than being informed about the topic unless you know what to do with it.


    I don't mean to be condescending when I say all that, it's just sort of an illogical way to think about exploitation. Most of the time, you learn a process or system so well that the exploit either happens by stress testing it or it becomes glaringly obvious due to your knowledge about it.
     
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  15. mecawi

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    what is a loophole?
     
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    BassTrackerBoats

    future dog's name.
     
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  17. Whisker

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    I guess I'm not talking about those kind of things, I am more referring to your buddy who's making 5 figures a day.
     
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    I found one I'm using daily, which is a huge time saver. Instead of scraping thousand of pages I figured out a query request that gives me everything in one page load :)
     
  19. madoctopus

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    http://dev.someRealEstateSite.com/admin/
    User: admin
    Pass: admin

    There you go... entire DB of clients, partners and data ready to be scraped. Nothing beats admin/admin :) Does that count as a loophole though? Not in my book. There are various degrees of loopholes. A loophole could be a security problem like Whisker describes, a side effect like effect of links for ranking in SE, etc. I never bothered much with actual loopholes, reason being they get found and fixed many times. So then I'm out of luck. I prefer to focus on inherent side effects within a system, that's why I like SEO a lot. Then again, I'm not quite smart or patient enough to be a hacker. Whisker raised an interesting issue though, one that contains a conclusion - most people are script kiddies. They are smart enough to use a technique that was given to them but not smart enough to find it or even know how to be in the mindset of looking for them on a permanent basis as second nature.

    Most people visit a site, look around, move on. When I open a site I think along these lines:
    - Is there something unusual about it?
    - How much money is it making?
    - How are they monetizing? Do I know all of the monetization methods they use or is there something fresh here?
    - How easy is it to build 100 times the scale, 100 times faster, with 100 times less cost?
    - How can I take all the info on their site, shuffle it somehow and mix it with other stuff and bank hard from it?
    - Is this worth my time? <- in most of the cases answer to this is NO. And that's the bottom line.
     
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  20. BassTrackerBoats

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    And that is the honest truth.