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Anyone able to rank new sites within 30 days?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by FrozenSpade, Oct 17, 2014.

  1. FrozenSpade

    FrozenSpade Power Member

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    I used to rank sites within 2 days, for the toughest keywords, before May 2014, using thousands of links. Since then, I could rank only a few sites, and only in not so competitive niches. Some people say the google sandbox is back, that there is a 60 day waiting period where everything is random.

    What do you think? Have you been able to rank new sites in competitive niches and for tough keywords? (by tough I mean keyword like 'payday loans')
     
  2. cgpa2.17

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    how long the kw would stay before May 2014?
     
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    Ya how long the kw would stay before May 2014?
     
  4. ludicrousspeed

    ludicrousspeed Newbie

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    The case studies I've looked at since May, and my own personal experience, suggest that it's difficult-to-impossible to rank new sites within 30 days. Sure, you can get indexed and up to about page 4 for some keywords, but page 1 doesn't seem so attainable.
     
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    Extreme authority links: MSNBC, CNN, Times and other news links in combo with an extremely powerful viral social campaign would work based on what I've seen happen to new websites that suddenly get caught in a headline news event. But is it even possible to buy such links, and if so would it be worth $1,000's of extra cost to rank just 30-60 days sooner?
     
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    Lies! I have a new site with 2 pages of content ranking in page 1-2 for several keywords. It rankedin about a week or so. Now im trying to get it to top3 spots.
     
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  7. mynameis940

    mynameis940 Power Member

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    Yes, you can. I rank some small niches within 30 days.. works fine. But I don't spam thousands of links.
     
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    There are tons of factor that why you are ranking and why you are not ranking.

    Its more luckily "luck" now for new website rankings.
     
  9. hnmfvnxe

    hnmfvnxe Regular Member

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    Ranking has got tougher for short tail keywords (high comp keywords). Before you can easily rank these type within a week, now not so much. You must have patience now for these type.

    Rankings for long tail keywords can be had as before.
     
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    I have managed to rank several sites page 1 within 1 month. It depends a lot on the keyword, if its not so competitive keywords with less then 100k searches then page 1 in one month is possible but if its some keyword like payday loans, garcinia cambogia then it can take 2-5 months to rank
     
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  11. ludicrousspeed

    ludicrousspeed Newbie

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    Oh? I'd be interested to hear how you went about doing that.
     
  12. wizdorf

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    I have had no problems ranking sites as well within a month.

    I have one I created about two weeks ago and a handful of the keywords are already page one.

    I'm creating sites with more content then usual, and not affiliate sites. Throw a good amount of paid links to the site and it's ranking as business as usual.
     
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    yes i could do that and i am still doing this doing 301 redirects.
     
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    I thing the costs would be greater than the revenue for this to happen.
     
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    Without knowing the keyword or competition in general, these "screenshots" and testimonials to ranking sites quickly is useless. Whenever someone says they ranked a competitive term or keyword in under 30 days I think you're either lying or you don't know what you're talking about. I also never trust any comment with large blinking signatures, because at that point, you;re just posting as many times as you can to gain attention, as it's a numbers game.
     
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    Based on my experience it takes exactly 8 (+- 1 week) to get a reasonable competitive keyword (low/medium competition) in the top 10(15-20) at least.If you add few powerful PBN links in between every 1-2 weeks during the 8 weeks,you will rank top 10 without a problem.For high competitive keywords again based on my tests results take between 12 to 16 weeks.
    So,i would say that the delay is set between 8 to 12 weeks for low/medium and 12+ weeks for higher competitive keywords.

    Some keywords get ranked between 2 to 6 weeks,however the pattern above was confirmed for the 80+ % of the keywords i tracked.

    These are my tests after ranking few hundreds of keywords the past few months.My link building strategy was changed a bit,but the biggest change was in the way of drip feeding links.

    Any massive spikes in your link building (tens/hundreds of PBN links) or any other link built in short time frames - few days or less will fuck you up in the long term for sure especially if the links are of low quality.If you are stuck,push some more link juice to your tier 1 minimum (eventually to tier 1 and 2) This quite simple delay/sandbox algo change that was implemented caused so much guessing and moaning over the forums that it's unreal ...
     
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  17. Walt Heisenberg Jr

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    I'm finding that ranking parasites with just spam and pbn/sape links is working great. I've recently ranked a high competition phrase on page 1 in around 25 days.

    I would say, don't believe in everything you hear. Do your own testing and see for yourself. While everyone is walking around confused, you'll be making money because you've actually done your own testing and you know what works.
     
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    Best answer so far. Thanks.
     
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    Technically yes, I can still get a website ranked within 30 days. However the work I do on the websites before ranking tends to take me more than 30 days. However someone with work ethics could do it in less than 30 days.
     
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    Lol these 30 day hold rumors are just bullshit.

    I don't target brilliantly hard keywords, but my sites still reach top 50 within a few days and make its way up throughout the next 2 weeks.

    What are you doing? Throwing a bunch of links at your site from the jump?
     
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