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any way to make money off of ideas?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by OnMGrind, Sep 14, 2014.

  1. OnMGrind

    OnMGrind Junior Member

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    Is there any way to make money off of ideas?

    I thought about making money writing stories only to realize i dont know/remember enough rules on writing structure for stories. I can write essays and such at a highschool/low college level, but when it comes fo writing stories on paper my mind comss to a blank.

    I have tons of cool ideas for sci fi... alternate history novels... just no idea how to ake money off of them.

    I know about outsourcing... but couldn't the person just steal my ideas and write their own book?

    Some of my ideas have loads of background on characters, environment, history, and even details on economic situations within said worlds.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Premium Member

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    Ideas for books would be difficult to sell, since they still need a writer to finish them.

    A rough draft takes more work, but has a better chance of gaining some interest.
     
  3. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    OP, you can hire a Ghostwriter to turn your ideas into books/completed novels.
    It won't be cheap.
     
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  4. OnMGrind

    OnMGrind Junior Member

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    Do you mean write the whole story and sell it without editing it?
     
  5. Pejlis

    Pejlis Regular Member

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    how about make your ideas reality by talking to close family member
     
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  6. Magic5

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    If you had an idea that was working why would you put it in a book :)
     
  7. OnMGrind

    OnMGrind Junior Member

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    Do u know if they accept percent of money earned or money upfront? Also how would you prevent them from stealing the ideas?
     
  8. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Normally you pay upfront but some are willing to work for a share of the royalties.
    You get them to sign a contract or Collaboration Agreement
     
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  9. Jared255

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    Your ideas are nothing special. Anyone can think of fantasy book ideas, just as anyone can think of an ad campaign for Nike or an alternate ending for their favorite movie. No one is going to "steal" them. In fact, unless you have a substantial budget, your main problem is going to be getting anyone of importance to even listen to them.

    The missing piece of the puzzle is articulating those ideas in a way where people gladly pay you money for the opportunity to read a scenario that you made up in your head.

    You say you can write at a high school/low college level for essays. Great, so can everyone else on the planet. Essays don't mean sh*t. Anyone can write a boring research essay.

    Learn to write in an interesting way or go another route - ideas are a dime a dozen. Only the execution matters. The Hunger Games is a pretty cookie cutter plot (at least the first book, haven't read the rest) but it became huge because it was written so well. Sure, it won't be hailed as a literary classic or anything, but I was definitely captivated while reading it. Read it in a night or two IIRC.

    Sorry if that was blunt, but you gotta think about it realistically. If you can't write your own book, why would anyone else want to? Do you have past successes? Money to hire them? etc.

    It's possible to do, but you need a little bit more than "listen to this idea I had for a fiction book".

    Good luck.

    Jared

    P.S. If you are still on board with the idea after reading that post, then learn to write. It's actually incredibly entertaining and the more you do it, the better you get.
     
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  10. 3tails

    3tails Newbie

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    Yeah, this is the truth. On top of it, everyone thinks their ideas are special. Your circle of family and friends will always agree just to be nice. There's a strong chance that others won't agree. This is why there are thousands of books published every month but so few famous authors.

    You could hire a ghostwriter, but that just might be throwing money away. Instead, make a blog and start writing things down. Ideas are free and trying to guard them is silly. By putting your ideas out somewhere and seeing if people come read, you just might get somewhere or at least see if people like your work or think it's just more derivative steampunk garbage.

    Want no trace? Go on a chan that moves quickly and start talking. Nobody will know who you are and the thread should auto-delete in time. I like 'chans as people will be brutally honest and you need honesty. If the reaction is "meh" or bad, it means you need to either refine or drop the idea.

    Good luck!
     
  11. zebrahat

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    Ideas are thought balloons, whereas drafts, blueprints, prototypes, inventions, novels, a thesis or other real products are the "proof of concept" that the ideas 'work' or have value. Isaac Newton thinking up the notion of 'gravity' would have come to nothing for him, had he not folowed up with fully articulated theory, math and tests to verify his concept was true.

    When J K Rowling was typing up her first Harry Potter book in the back of a McDonalds (she was that poor, at the beginning) was she thinking her ideas alone about the story would lead to millions? Hollywood would have tossed her idea in the file cabinet of oblivion, had she gone to them first with just a mere pitch. It was the creation, publication and heavy sales of the full work that proved her concept, and caused film makers to stampede to her door.

    So I say, do the full write up, even if you have to hire the ghostwriter yourself. Or find a book on story structure, and have it by your side as you write your masterpiece, so you don't have to 'remember' all the narrative elements yourself, just follow the template or formulas suggested.
     
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