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Any patek phillipe watch experts out there?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by TheChronicles, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. TheChronicles

    TheChronicles Regular Member

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    Any patek watch experts on bhw?
     
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    I used to be in the business, not sure what the question is.
     
  4. TheChronicles

    TheChronicles Regular Member

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    Hi,
    I recently came across a patek Phillipe watch and i was wondering if its a fake or an authentic. The watch description says that the watch was made for Saddam Hussein's top military leaders and only 6 of them were made.

    Take a look at the pictures, what do you think authentic or a fake?

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    So what do you guys/gals think? Authentic or Not?
    How much do you think a watch like this is worth?
     
  5. TheChronicles

    TheChronicles Regular Member

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    fenway - that's my question^
     
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    '...Maybe this will help answer your question as you are not alone with your find. The Craigslist listing even has the identical images:

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    Patek Philippe produced all of the ten most expensive watches in the world. The company, headquartered in Geneva, made their first wristwatch in 1868. They had already made a name for themselves prior to that, however, by providing watches to Queen Victoria herself in 1851. Other notable customers include Pope Pius IX, a king and queen of Denmark, an Italian king and Saddam Hussein's son-in-law, although NOT Saddam Hussein himself as he wore a Rolex which, in the great Saddam Bling and Buy sale was auctioned by his right-hand man Haitham Wahaib to raise money for Iraqi schools, with an opening price of $150,000.00. Much of his other loot ended up in the hands of the US Military.

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    Saddam Hussein's Rolex watch.

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    Although Fulop Watch Repair, 51 Florence Ave, Massapequa, NY 11758, (Telephone: (516) 795-1810), exist, I believe the attached appraisal has been mocked up on a computer. Further more, I have been unable to find any Patek Philippe watch remotely resembling this model.

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    The supposed Saddam's Army Emblem is in fact the Coat of Arms emblem of Iraq from 1991 - 2004 showing the standard pan-Arab "Eagle of Saladin" with shield of the tricolor of national flag (with the "Takbir" text الله أكبر widely rumored to be in Saddam Hussein's own handwriting), holding a scroll with the words الجمهورية العراقية (al-Jumhuriya al-`Iraqiya "The Iraqi Republic"). From 1963 - 1991 the colour stripes on the shiled ran vertically. From 1991 - 2008, they ran horizontally. This became necessary due to the addition of text in the flag and emblem.

    I believe this is a scam!'

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    TheChronicles Regular Member

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    So how would you verify something like this, that its authentic?
    Also a thing that went off in my mind was the price that it was listed at...

    Also,
    why do you think its a scam?
     
  8. mak111

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    okay, the above post is right, its the iraqi coat of arms...
    and not saddam's personal army emblem..

    and saddam's "signature" really isnt his signature..
    i can read it and its just his name written in plain arabic. doesnt take away from the credibility that its his watch.. just wanted to let you know that aint his signature..

    the only way to find out is to email PP themselves, i have a chronograph PP and i lost its authenticity certificate along with the original box.
    after proving to them that i received the watch from a family member as a gift.
    they traced the day it was sold/where/to who, and
    after verifying that i did infact own an authentic watch.
    they just mailed me a new one. top notch service actually.


    so, just ask them!
     
  9. TheChronicles

    TheChronicles Regular Member

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    how long did it take you to get a reply from PP?