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Any members here in the Forces?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by ahiddenman, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. ahiddenman

    ahiddenman Elite Member

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    When i left School in the UK and went to college i felt that i would rather of joined the forces (Army or Navy) as college was a waste of time for me doing Accounting , Electrical engineering and IT and it bored the crap out of me.

    Both my cousin and uncle were in the forces , Uncle was a paratrooper and my cousin was in the Royal Marine commando's. Both served over 20 years. So i have a small military background.

    I've always fancied going into the Navy or the Army so i went to a recruitment office and found two possible career's i liked and they were looking for personnel. One was in the Navy as a Gunner onboard one of the Ships (Ahiddenman on the machine guns yeah right) and the other was a Weapons technician in the British army (Frontline).

    Anybody on here who's currently in the Forces or have served time?


    P.S - I know lots of shit happens out in Afghan but you should never think about that side of things.
     
  2. marine584

    marine584 Registered Member

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    What sort of advice are you after. I was in the Royal marines for 4 years. I did afghan in 02 and iraq in 03. Left in 04.

    My advice go for something that gives you a civilian qualification. Being a gunner etc wont give you any prospects when you leave.

    If you want action then infantry. But you also understand the consequences of this. So I wont preach to you. You will for sure being doing afghan at least 3 times in your career. Possibly more.

    If you want to be treated the best, then go with the RAF. This service looks after their people more. There known as civvies in uniform.

    Ask away and I will try to help with your questions
     
  3. Autumn

    Autumn Elite Member

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    Sit around in your underpants for your cushy IM job, drink coffee and make millions

    vs

    Lug around 60kg of crap on your back in boiling heat while getting shot at by Arabs and dying in the dirt or having your leg blown off by an IED

    hmmm... tough choice. :D
     
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    browsing_hosts Regular Member

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    The latter is a once in a lifetime experience, he can always come back and do IM.

    Joining the army will teach him a lot and give him a great amount of discipline and stride, all of which is needed to succeed in his IM career.
     
  5. SilverSultan

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    Join my 12th Army of 2n dimensional Underworld,
    you get 401k and a bonus LASER WEAPONS, ;)

    anyways choose what you think is best mate, choose wisely
     
  6. marine584

    marine584 Registered Member

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    I agree it teaches you alot. I was looking and come away un hurt. But it can happen. Few of the scrotes on the streets should be forced to do IED clearance in my opinion. But thats another story :)
     
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    Actually I disagree. In economics terms, IM is a rapidly maturing industry, meaning that small players are getting forced out and everything is consolidating in the hands of larger companies with money. I've seen is happen faster and faster in the ten years I've been working on the internet and the window for making large bucks as a solo operator or small business is rapidly coming to a close. There is potentially a large opportunity cost in going and doing something else for a few years.

    And there are plenty of ways to become disciplined other than being yelled at in the army and fighting someone else's oil war.
     
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  8. Apposl

    Apposl Power Member

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    Yes, I did six years in the 82nd Airborne as an infantry sergeant. Greatest time of my life - well, I have a beautiful 4yo now, so I can't really say that, but you know what I mean (parents anyway...).

    Joined in '99 but only got one tour in, over to Afghanistan. Saw a fair share, left 8mos later with a Bronze Star with Valor and Purple Heart and a group of friends I'll never forget.

    If you're thinking about going in, you're probably going to be a bit young and gung-ho. Take a step back. Being infantry sounds cool, and it can be. Kicking doors in and shooting bad guys, sure. Shooting artillery cannons off or driving a tank. This is all heavy stuff to a younger male, and a lot can be said for the CAREER soldier who gets his feet wet in combat arms type jobs, before moving on to something else.

    That said, you need to really realize and think: something could happen to you. Not dying, but being wounded and unable to continue your infantry or combat arms career and having to transition to something else or leave the military, into an uncertain economy. I say, go technical. Go for the satellite communications jobs. Go for the computer software stuff. Hold out against the recruiter, study up for your tests or whatever they do over there, and concentrate on making the military pay you to go to school and do what you really want to do for the rest of your life.

    This is advice from an American obviously, but I'm sure some applies. Nothing to prove to anyone by being a shooter - go into it with an eye towards a career and getting free training in a field you want to be in. Medical, communications, etc.

    But I see also now you're a bit iffy on going to school for IT and that stuff, so sometimes guys are just good combat soldiers, and you might be one of them. If you sign up, it's going to suck. Training sucks. The weather sucks. The bugs suck. The chow usually sucks. Being in a high-speed unit sucks. There's a lot of suck involved, and that's a very real thing. You're going to be fucking miserable sometimes, cold and wet and tired and hungry and you know what, tough shit, drive on. And that's just when nature is conspiring - you could get killed or mained any thousands of times in a 20-year career as a combat soldier.

    The pride and mindset of being a tested and true combat soldier is unlike anything else in this world, though.

    You want to survive as a man on the ground, as a 'grunt' as people quickly dismiss, and you'd be mistaken. You'd better be sharp, you'd better be damn good at a live chess game that involves you living or dying and multiple pieces in multiple locations trying to kill you. Combat is fluid and you have to be on top of it intellectually while at the same time shooting and rushing around in the most physical ways possible. Situational awareness and calmness, a level head, strong players in survival. The grunt is not a dumbass. You'll meet some of the most sharp and intelligent men you'll ever know.

    Okay, I can talk to a young hopeful about the military for hours. I'm done. 31yo here, out in '04. Miss it every day. Have a 4yo daughter now or I'd be picking up contracts over in Iraq and Afghanistan right now and wouldn't be scraping by as a college student.
     
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    DieselWeasel Newbie

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    Go officer if you can. If I had to do it over again, that's what I'd do.
     
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    For sure. Usually requires college but definitely the best option.