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Any interest in a paid-to-watch (and like) platform?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by macdonjo3, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. macdonjo3

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    So, I've been thinking about a new software lately. A lot of people have failed with this, because they lack certain components.

    Basically, users would be paid to act as a perfectly normal visitor... to search a keyword on YouTube, click a YouTube video, watch 90-100% of it (you specify), then ~10% of them will be prompted to like the video or some sort of reasonable ratio, and then everyone will exit the tab. Each viewer will be paid like $0.10.

    This is expensive when looking at thousands of views, and that's why I'm asking beforehand. I think it'd only be worthwhile in less traffic niches.

    What do you guys think? Would any of the big YT guys on here be interested in this? I'm talking to the guys who drop $100, $1000, or more into monthly YT promotions.

    This would all be done in real browsers, and done with real viewers, nothing would be fake, therefore, no footprints.
     
  2. GringoMonkey

    GringoMonkey Power Member

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    Ultimately people don't pay for views they want a Return On Investment (ROI) and views are just a means to an end not an end in itself.

    Paying for views is just one way of getting higher up the ranking. The end game is to get real people who complete the ROI funnel.

    ROI on advertising spend either means clicking the adsense ad or following a link to make a product purchase or whatever, so that the profit is greater than the cost of the advertising spend.

    If your offering can complete the ROI funnel and click an adsense ad that is a different thing altogether - but alas against the T&C's of YouTube. Equally your unlikely to be able to buy the product and make a profit.

    So to be honest with you based on the costs you outlined I cannot see your business model providing an ROI either to you or to any advertisers.
     
  3. macdonjo3

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    The end goal would be to provide enough natural retention signals to rank higher. This isn't for getting fake Adsense clicks or anything.
     
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    Your misunderstanding what I said.

    If you are going to pay $0.10 to the "viewer" most of the big hitters who buy natural retention views pay a lot less than that at retail, look at what potential competitors such as qqtube charge.

    For you to make profit you would have to have thousands and thousands of people signed up and charge more than $0.10 per view. Why would someone pay more than they currently do for a service they are already getting?

    If your not offering something else as well there is no point offering a service that is the same as your competitors only more expensive and then trying to persuade them to move to you. They won't.

    Your thread asked is there any point in offering this service to big hitters. My answer is no I was just trying to explain why.
     
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    I agree with GringoMonkey, $0.10 per viewer is tooo high! It is even higher that adwords (youtube ads).
    I'm getting 400-600 US views for only $10 and not only that i'm getting click on ads, likes, comments and subs aswell
     
  6. amarindia

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    PPV.... i think you can get millions of viewer who can view in 2-3 cents per view, but u must have good inventory in numbers of videos.

    I am happy to be a part of this discussion.
     
  7. tokokipiani

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    I think that this amount of money for views is too much.
     
  8. mourf

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    You can promote your YT videos on the platform for around $.05 on average if you work at it. That alone prevents me from wanting to spend $.10 for a view.

    Also, you have to keep in mind that someone entering a video, watching, maybe clicking on like, etc. and leaving is not an ideal watching session. You want your video(s) to be part of a longer watch session and be engaged with. Finally, it's better to be the entry point and not good to be the exit point.
     
  9. macdonjo3

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    You are disregarding ranking signals... referrer, retention, likes ratio, etc
     
  10. mourf

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    Retention is part of watch time and longer watch sessions.
    Referrers matter for what they drive. As long as they drive real views that have characteristics like previously mentioned, they are valuable. Their value is calculated the same as views from other external traffic sources.
    I've listed engagement as part of the overall picture as part of a larger breakdown in my other postings. However, engagement, such as likes is a very small piece of the pie relatively speaking. Therefore, they are nice to have as long as going after them doesn't deter the user from accomplishing the higher priority items mentioned.