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Any "black hat" job seekers in here?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by trushafty38, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. trushafty38

    trushafty38 Regular Member

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    By "blackhat" i mean you used some not so regular ways to get hired at your current position( grant it you don't work for yourself).

    Any of you lie about previous jobs or criminal backgrounds?

    Maybe actually tried to use one of those fake degrees?

    My thought on the matter today:

    Why cant I just fake a website for a company, then use that company linked back to where i "worked" for 5 years in the field i was going after.

    Then link that to a fake "company number" via magic jack (where you can use an out of state number)....The company (or background agency)calls your fake company to check the resume or the agent they hired to check. It actually rings to your girlfriend who patches through to your friend (the boss).

    Im interested to know what you guys think works and doesnt work.

    What do you guys think? How far could I take this if i wanted to . Fake magazine which had wrote an article about me in that professional area of expertise ?
     
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  2. JuicyBlack

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    PFFff... that is exactly how the mortgage company I used to work at would get their Subprime loans funded, they would give the loan applicant a "fake job" by using the exact same method so that when the bank called to verify stuff the loan would go through each and every time....
     
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    sounds like it would work ill give it a go lol
     
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    Sounds like something Stephen Glass or Jayson Blair would do...they did and got caught too.
     
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  5. MikeHustle

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    I know someone that did that:

    He used a maildrop as the business's address

    Skype number

    He used me as his former boss

    Worked well!

    I'm not looking for a job (blk hat 4 life biotches). but I'm going to make a fake resume tomorrow with ZERO gaps in employment, and with a 10 year job history where I only worked 3 jobs-- one college student type BS job, and 2 quality jobs. I want to see how far I can go with fake info! MIght even show up to an interview or 2 with baggy jeans and a tshirt
     
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  6. Remington

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    I'm self employed now and have been for years, but when I did employment I NEVER told about my real prior jobs. I had far too many, that lasted for only a few months each, to admit to it. Employers never want to think that their "great new hire" is going to get sick of putting up with being employed after just 6 months or less! So it's just best practice to make it look like you don't have your running shoes on from the moment you darken the door.

    Even though I would usually use a safe phone number, it turned out that prospective employers would never call it. The amount of actual checking seemed to be 0.

    For jobs from further back, just use companies that are now out of business. That also gives a ready-made excuse for leaving the job: They closed down. If you actually worked at any now-dead companies, those can go on the app too.

    Note that this wasn't for any kind of job that actually requires credentials.

    It works great at the places where the main requirement is the ability to breathe. The one caveat is that those employers don't want to admit that's the real requirement. So I learned a bunch of spin to say at the interviews that made them think I would be eager, dedicated, and have a 1/2 a chance at fitting in.

    I never could bluff being a "team player," though, so jobs that really pushed that aspect hard didn't come about. I guess my visible cringe and recoil put 'em off.
     
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  7. w84it

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    what if you dont have or never had the opportunity to go and get your degree.
    As long as you have the knowledge and experience to do the job I don't see a problem with a fake degree.
     
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    trushafty38 Regular Member

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    Just wanted to say that personally I dont want to use any fake degree. Im just looking for ideas and thoughts and yeah like the ones above thanks.
     
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    Ha i hear you on that one Remington!!
     
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    WTF lighten up, the op started a fun thread i was enjoying it till this negitive name calling comment.. I mean really...

    Why so grumpy? >>here>>>> A man walks into a doctors office with a frog on his head, the doctor asks, "What happened" , the frog said, "it all started with a bump on my ass"...

    then now fu..k..n.g laugh, go out kick some homeless person in the nut sack, throw him $10 bucks, and you will feel better.. trust me...
     
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    I think everyone "stretches" their resume material to some degree...

    The hardest (and probably stooopidest) thing to fake is the degree - after that you can get pretty far on fake info - but - as with any lie, it's best if there is something truthfull to what you are saying:

    If you make up a company and position, they will still see right through you when they ask a few questions if you don't know anything about the type of work: ie: If you are claiming to be a manger - even if everything else is made up, it will likely hold if you have some kind of management experience.
    example:
    Q: "As a human resources manager, where do you keep up to date on the latest legal requirements?
    A: ??? (hint: it's not "the internet")

    and yeah, as previous poster stated - this will work better for some positions than others (although I've heard a story or 2 about 'doctors' who did this - enough to scare the #&$* out of you, if you think about it)

    And thinking about it... there was a guy who started working where I used to work, and within days it was all too obvious he did not have the experience he claimed to have (he would get really nervous doing work he had supposedly done for many years) - management probably would've kept him anyway, but the other employees pretty much ran him off for not being able to keep up.
    ...so just saying, whatever it is you are trying to get a job at, it's probably best if you really can do the job ;)
     
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    sounds like a way to prove the need for a good backround check business you happen to own
     
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    About 5 years ago I didn't really want to work but i needed the money. What I would do is apply for call centre jobs where the training was between 3 to 6 weeks. Because call centers have such a high turnover rate of staff, they're always advertising jobs.

    I'd secure a role and then spend the next couple of weeks socializing with the other applicants and surfing the net etc. It made for good fun, easy money and once training finished I'd inform the company I had a new job that paid better so I would be leaving immediately (I usually gave about 5 minutes notice, they hated that).

    It's so easy to get these types of jobs too. Here in Melbourne there are tons listed every day. I don't do this sort of thing now but back then I wasn't the sort of person who was motivated to do much at all really so this suited me fine at that time.

    I don't know how well this would go over in places such as America where employees have fuck all rights, but here down under it works great.

    As for references, don't you guys have friends who do that for you? Seems a little bit extreme making up a website etc unless you're going for jobs where they really scrutinize you before offering you the position.
     
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    I could never Bluff PASSION. I was never excited about going to a job for a pay check. Managers would take one look at me, and just knew that I wasn't the kind of guy that would stick around.
     
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    If you have a passion for bluffing, it's an entirely different type of game.
     
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    That's so true! I should go on some interviews just to test my acting skills. Hidden video and audio of my interviews will be used on a "get a job today site".... gotta pimp the economy;)
     
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    I'm an undergraduate but did spend 4 years in the University. I never put UNDERGRADUATE in my resume. I just say that I was educated in that particular university for a period of 4 years. They just assume that I graduated. Hahaha.
     
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    yeah there is a bunch of resources ive found online about this kind of thing 52% of applicants for jobs aka job applicants have lied on their resume lol

    14% of half of those people lied about the survey though so idk
     
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    just found this link http://careerexcuse.com seems like something to grab some of their ideas if someone needs to do this. A lot of good ideas to be taken if needed.
     
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    THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If someone did that for real, they'd make $$$$$$$$$$

    hahahahahahahahahaha