Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by The Scarlet Pimp, May 30, 2010.
just when you think it can't get worse...
BUNCH OF FUCKING IDIOTS
they will ruin whole world...fucking capitalism
im 19, i really wonder in what world will my kids live...fucking insane, under ground in bunkers probably...and under sea...
I'm so glad I made it to Key West for some scuba last week, because chances are it's over there for the forseeable.
This is probably going to become one of, if not the worst ecological disasters in history
well i know very little of this oil leak... but it cant be worse than chernobil right?
Oil which we fight wars for, oil which we fix prices for, oil which we are so dependent on, oil which people striving for power love so much, oil which is going to cause one of the biggest catastrophes of the century... I find it ironic.
Btw, oil will end in this century anyway. So all good. ... Oh wait ; (
Carol Browner: Administration 'Prepared For The Worst,' Oil May Leak Until August
WASHINGTON â€” White House energy czar Carol Browner says oil might keep leaking into the Gulf of Mexico for months until relief wells are completed.
Browner tells NBC's "Meet The Press" that the administration is "prepared for the worst." That's a scenario none of the measures under way will work, and oil leaks until relief wells are finished in August.
She says the government has ordered BP to drill two relief wells in case the first well doesn't work.
@TSP:thanks for always posting latest news.
you know you remind me of The magician,two years ago he used to do the same.just posted what i thought thanks again.
I think it would be hard to top the Chernobyl disaster. Even 20 some years later the area around the reactor is still abandoned, for the most part. Here are some videos from 2006 touring the surrounding area: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnigFmQTC4s and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=101OEaksU0s.
You don't know too much about oil and why its in demand do you? Every little piece of merchandise you have ever bought, used, ate and thrown away has had oil in it or used to manipulate it. Its everywhere, so if you still want all the nice things in this world, it ain't going to be wind power thats going to do it. Don't blame capitalism, blame people. We have too many of them all wanting the same thing.
well ye basically we have too many greedy people on world... oil could have been replaced by electric, wind, solar, thermal energy long time ago...but those oil companies make too much money and they either bought all patents for things like that or helped in making them fail, well im sure every educated human knows that, or should i say every human that thinks with his head and doesnt listen to everything that is in news...
If you're blaming capitalism alone for this oil leak, then the same logic would blame socialism for Chernobyl in 1986.
What alternatives does that leave us then? Anarchy? We would all just kill eachother. Is that better?
You can't just blame, exclusively, a broad economic system such as capitalism for an event such as this. You should try and point the blame at the greedy individuals, profit-driven companies and shady politicians that allowed such a disaster to happen.
But I'm sensing you don't know which people, companies and politicians to blame because you haven't done your research, right? And no, I haven't either, but I'm not out there blaming a broad economic policy on a topic in which I know nothing about.
I'm not trying to 'bash' you or anything, so please don't take offense. Just saying your arguement, so far, is illogical and therefore not a valid arguement.
well i am talking about capitalism and about greedy people...
and no, anarchy wouldnt be instead of capitalism, it would be proper socialism, not socialism that was in russia, which really wasn't socialism at all
i guess you have watched zeitgeist, well if you havent you must... and there is talking about
which i think is great, and the guy that stands behind this project is jacque fresco who had first interview in 1974 !!! 1974, and he was talking about all these problems that capitalism brings us, and greedy people with it ofc, and at that time, electric cars could be possible, but ofc, oil companies shut those projects down.
August? Let's see...Hurricane + oil spill =
It's the few greedy people and profit-driven companies that make capitalism look so bad.
It's like having a snowball fight. Snowball fights are fun because it's competitive and you really have to work hard if you want to win. A few people are doing this and then there is always that little prick comes and starts throwing ice balls. This ruins everybody elses chance because now the guy throwing the ice balls is taking an aggressive shortcut to win.
Just like capitalism, we can't let the few greedy people ruin all the future innovations, and innovations of the past.
Capitalism creates competitiveness, which in turn creates innovation. If we cut capitalism out, we will have no innovation.
I do agree, however, the United States should significantly increase the law on white collar crimes.
It's like following the "With great power comes great responsibility", if you can't handle the position your at and you try to take shortcuts and ignore responsibility, you should pay the price.
I don't agree, but I respect your opinion now that you've explained it more.
Exactly right, not many people realise this. They claim; "Use wind power.", "Use Nuclear.", "Use Electric!"
What they forget is that every product on this planet has been made with oil. Oil is used in pharmaceuticals, it's used in all clothing, it's used in pesticides, it's used in all rubbers and plastics.
No oil doesn't merely mean no energy.
No oil = no anything. No food, no clothes, no drugs. Nothing. Simple as that.
And yes it is pure stupidity that humanity has put all their eggs into one basket.
um I am sure people in the past (waaaayyyy back when oil was not being used) did not walk around naked and it is quite obvious they had food because we are here today. Than again I just might be wrong....
i agree...of course there is food, clothes without OIL...
oil is only SOURCE OF POWER... just energy to run things like cars, ...but cmon, no oil no food? well that is not true
if we used water,solar,thermal... energies more efficient, we could live without oil 100%,
we could not live without electricity, because we are so used to it, but oil and electricity are 2 different things
but how ur gonna stop them, you just cant, because we normal people dont have power to do it, those who have power, dont do anything, because they are corrupted or they are silenced down, politics is just 1 huge joke...
i mean what i find VERY STRANGE, is USA PRESIDENT ELECTIONS... did you ever, EVER heard of name BUSH or OBAMA, before elections took place? they just happen out of nowhere, and you got to pick 1 people out of few, that claim they will change world to better place
Wow, I haven't agreed with anyone that much since I saw "Roger and Me." Right on brother, right on.
If we keep moving forward as a monetary-based society as opposed to a resource-based society, we are all fucked.
For those who argue that the free market is an open system where anyone can achieve wealth, America is one of the most socially immobile countries in the world, meaning that those born poor are likely to stay poor, and those born rich are likely to stay rich. For the argument that the competitive nature of capitalism produces more innovation, statistics show that countries with higher income equality filed more patents per million people each year than the United States and similar countries of larger income gaps.
This is aside from the obvious impact on the climate that a capitalist system creates. In a monetary society, obsolescence is encouraged, as the shorter lifespan a product has, the more profit it generates in the long-term. Excess waste is built into the system, which flourishes from disposability and inefficiency. In a monetary system, change, abundance, sustainability, and efficiency are the enemies of profit. Corporations are not in competition with other corporations, but with progress itself.
(paraphrased from The Huffington Post)
In the ancient past things were not mass produced nor made from synthetic materials.
Look it up - nearly all synthetic materials require oil somewhere in them. Most clothes nowadays are made from synthetic material.
All organic foods require pesticides, pesticides have oil as a main component. All other dried / freezed / canned / packaged food require oil in the process somewhere along the line.
Many pharmaceuticals have oil in them (some are animal oil others are veg. oil) a lot are mineral oils.
Plastics cannot be made without oil. Name a product now-a-days that does not use plastic! No plastic = no computers.
Rubbers are made from oil. No oil = no more car tyres - doesn't matter whether the car is electric or solar powered it still needs tyres. It takes 7 gallons of oil to make a single tyre. That 28 gallons of oil per car (including the spare) plus the extras it uses in it's life time. How many cars in the world? How many car tyres are there in the world? No idea how many gallons for a truck tyre.
The list can go on and on. The short of it though, is that without oil there are virtually no modern products that can be made.
you have all the power you will ever need to stop ''them'' as you put it. its simple, stop consuming
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