Is there any idea of when its finally coming out? I'm getting close to just deciding to go with intel i5 7th gen series since it seems zen keeps getting pushed back. FX series is starting to get really old and being bested by i3's now. By the 9th gen of core series, i3 should even beat fx 8350 in multicore optimized gaming. If zen is as good as they claim, its going to have to be in the $190 to $230 range for the 8core/16 thread version to make it worth getting.