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Am I safe? Or should I be scared?

Discussion in 'CPA' started by fusilli_jerry89, May 27, 2009.

  1. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    So basically I am using this method that gets people to sign up for an offer with their address, their phone number, name, etc. (no credit card.) I am going into testing now but can't start for a couple days, and am a bit worried whether I will get paid or not. I've read man posts about flying under the radar and such, but I have read other posts suggesting you have to make very little per network to fly under the radar. I have also read that many of these offers are email submits which obviously get scrubbed a hell of a lot.

    Am i much better off with the type of offers I am running? Do you think I could make around $40-$50 per day per network easily without being banned? Maybe closer to $100? I know that my offer I am promoting calls my leads on the phone, so I assume it's gotta convert way better than any email offer.

    Sorry, I am just looking for some insight and advice so that I can go through the next couple of days knowing that I am probably safe.

    Oh and my goal is $1000 per day, so hopefully I only need to be a part of 30 networks in the worst case.
     
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  2. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Are you sending any whitehat traffic? If it's all BH and it's one they call the lead your going to get banned rather quickly
     
  3. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    hmm why will I get banned very quickly if they call the lead? Even if I'm only doing $40 per day per network? And it's all BH at the moment. I'm sending CL traffic.

    I don't have any whitehat traffic to send. Would ppc be good enough?
     
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  4. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Well how blackhat is it? Are you Iframing, using incentive, running an ad on craigslist? Just saying that if you get 20 leads and they call all 20 and they have no idea what offer they are being called about at the very least the advertiser will have you pulled.
     
  5. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    well they are fully aware what they are signing up for. They are just under the impression that I will pay for their coverage.
     
  6. googlecash

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    I agree with madinaz,the best way is , Mix the whitehat traffic and the blackhat traffic.
     
  7. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    Is it easier to get some WH traffic or harder? Cuz I spent almost a month getting my BH methods set up, hopefully it wont take much longer to get a decent amount of WH traffic. Won't PPC with google, yahoo and msn do the trick? Or is it harder than it looks?

    Are you guys saying that it's impossible to make money from CPA doing only BH leads? Even if it a low amount like $25 dollars per day per network? Whitehat just seems like it takes more time, and I don't have much time to spare :eek:
     
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  8. madinaz

    madinaz BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    You can do it but 80% of the time your not getting paid and by the end of month 2 you should have been banned. Even if your doing the "secret shopper" method paying $$ for people to buy a trial when the don't rebill or convert on the backend at least a little the networks ban
     
  9. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    well i guess its time 2 go cry. Unless im close. But I don't think I am.
     
  10. fusilli_jerry89

    fusilli_jerry89 Regular Member

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    Can some1 please make me feel better? lol
     
  11. morstar

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    Probably you can try on one CPA network to see what will happen and expand to other network when you believe it's safe.
     
  12. singingsleep

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    I kind of agree with the above. Of course you can't give out your method, but depending on how loose the affiliate is and how much conversion you get, you might be able to ride it out. You always have to make the affiliate money though in order for you to be safe. Make nice with your affiliate manager, and a few weeks in, ask about how your conversions are doing.
     
  13. blackhat50

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    why is everyone trying to make $1,000 per day? as if everyone was making more than 250$ a day before internet marketing?

    you either risk it all or don't play i guess ? why not just make some extra cash and slowly build up? why see how fast you can get banned?
     
  14. shm03

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    Use some ppc to cover your tracks, if you have quite a bit pending in your accounts, spend a bit of cash to keep it safe... although you do risk loosing that if they ban your account even after you do some ppc.
     
  15. MrE

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    When they speak to the lead and ask where he found out about their services this is going to get you shut down very quickly.
     
  16. fusilli_jerry89

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    well guess its time to develop a new method. Thanks guys. It's better that my method was shot down rather than me having false hope and wasting weeks pursuing it.
     
  17. jakeumms

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    Just use like 30 networks, have code to auto rotate b/w the offers, and put a few incentive offers in there. That's what I'm doing with about $10k, and I think I'll be fine.