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Am I Giving Bad SEO Advice?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by crazyflx, Jun 12, 2010.

  1. crazyflx

    crazyflx Elite Member

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    I'm offering a ScrapeBox service in the BST section and I'm noticing a common question is this:

    Now, I normally recommend that they DON'T do that, as I was under the impression that if you were to have 3, 4, 5 or even 6 hundred backlinks show up to your site inside of a week and a half that all have identical/nearly identical anchor text, that would lead to/could lead to a sandbox.

    What I normally recommend is they vary the anchor text among their target keywords as well as keywords that are simply related to their domain/the content on it...even throwing a couple of "click heres to see keyword" in there. What I actually say I'll do on my sales thread is "30 names & at least 30 keywords related to your site content (plus whatever specific keywords you want)". Then as each post is made, it randomly selects 1 of those things as the anchor text.

    I was under the impression that Google, or any other search engine for that matter, can see that a couple hundred backlinks all with the same exact anchor text is obviously artificial & spammy backlinking, and that to have a natural looking backlink profile that you need to vary your anchor text considerably.

    Here are a couple of links that support this:

    http://www.linksmaster.com/articles/link_exchange_news/link-exchange-article-0003.html
    http://www.juiceelinks.com/general/looking-natural-9-ways-to-add-variety-to-your-anchor-text/

    Am I giving bad advice? Are varied keywords, instead of just a couple of target keywords, being used to build that many links in such a short period of time actually worse and hurting the client/not helping as much as it should?
     
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  2. crazyflx

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    I thought I would have seen a larger number of response ;) Normally people jump all over these types of threads.
     
  3. iceyou

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    It doesn't hurt to spread it out as you said but more effort should be concentrated on actually getting anchor texts on google.
     
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    I use 2 keywords for my main site...
     
  5. crazyflx

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    Yes, but do you gain 500 backlinks in a week with 2 keywords?
     
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    My plan is to just let the buyer tell me what they want, and I guess I'll keep my opinions to myself. I mean, "the customer is always right" I guess.

    If they don't ask for my opinion, I won't give it. I just wanted to see some other peoples take on the subject.

    What I'll do will be the same regardless (and that will be to just give the customer what they want).
     
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    i would love to know the right answer too, i also thought that if u just put all the links to one or two keywords then i would appear spammy, but i guess it depends how many links are already appearing.
     
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    I don't know if google does detect such behaviour as spam links but it does give an indication of linkspam so even if they don't factor it they could do so in the future. Having varied anchor texts would always be better. You could also put some keywords in the text alongside the keyword.
     
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  9. crazyflx

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    Here is another example:

    http://www.blogherald.com/2009/05/31/using-anchor-text-effectively-part-2/

    Excerpt: "
    Watch Out for Spam.

    The first thing many webmasters do when they hear about anchor text is build links with the same exact anchor text. Logically, this seems like a good idea. The more of the same anchor text, the better, right?
    However, there seems to be an anchor text spam penalty on Google. If you use the same anchor text over and over again, Google may think that you are trying to manipulate their search engine. Your ranking could decrease instead of improve.
    A better strategy is to vary your anchor text to make it look more natural. This doesn't mean you can't target your desired term. You just have to be less obvious about it."
     
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    Well, I already know for a fact that they put it into effect to some degree (just google: google bomb <- relates to getting as many links as possible all with the same anchor text to rank for that specific term) but to what extent I'm not sure.
     
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    If you are going for a natural look then you would definitely vary the anchor text. You are not going to get 500 backlinks naturally with only two exact anchor texts. They would be all sorts of keywords, some naked urls, some a name, etc.
     
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    And another: http://www.bizmord.com/Blog/archives/228

    Excerpt: "Think about it. How natural is it to get other sites to link to your blog or a website using the same description? Just look at blogs. I get links that have an anchor text of whatever the **** others decide to say about it. That's natural my friend."
     
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    I can vouch for varying your anchor text being a plus for flying under the radar. This makes it look more natural to Google than just constantly blasting the same anchor-text links to your site.

    Of course, you want to put the most emphasis on the KW that you want to rank most for, but add variations in there as well.

    Also take into consideration how hard and fast you will be doing your campaign and is short-term or long-term?

    If it's a hit and run style promotion, fuck it. Hit it as hard as you want.

    If it's long-term, spread out your submissions and use varied anchor-texts.

    Also, deep link.

    Finally, I have also found that the occasional "click here" or "here" type anchor texts help a lot.
     
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    This is correct. So to the point - you are not giving bad advice in my opinion.
     
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    Personally I don't think it matters at all.

    I don't believe in varying anchor text, either.
     
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  16. Radagast

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    3 years later, you got your answer buddy! Happy now? :tee:
     
  17. monk13

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    for keyword spinning with scrapebox, it's a good idea to use about 30 different keywords or so, but make a list, 1-3 of target keywords, keywords at importance level 1 would be in the spin 4-5 times, importance level 2 would be in 3 times, importance 3 would be in 2 times, and everything else in once
    that way you're not using flat randomization, you've got weighted randomization
     
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    All Hail Buzkin....:)

    As He's The One Finally Comes With An Answer To This Unsolved Mystery After 3 Years
    And Eventually Increased His Post Count.
     
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    WOW. Nice bumping of a three year old thread!