Am I Buying Too Much SEO For My Pages

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ive been buying from a seller here for a couple months. i looked at one his threads and reviews for over a half an hour. #1s all over the place, for like at least 50 million results in google and way higher monthly searches than i have. threads open since 2012 and 800 pages of sales

ive bought 8 packages for 3 urls, 2 or 3 packages for each url. i did have one movement of 20 positions, and other keywords moved around some but nothing significant. nothing past the 20th position

today hes telling me i should be buying 2 to 3 months of links. ive spent $1500 in the last 8 months on SEO here at BHW. you got a prob with my measely $1500, whatever, i aint got a job, kids, and a house

ive been taking care of things on my site, seo, keywords are good. i seriously probably aint got more than 5,000 monthly searches for any of my keywords, alot of them are just like around 100 from a site i bought here, wasnt my choice

should i keep buying from a source i know can easily take care of my pages by far but hasnt. go buy from someone else
 
ive spent $1500 in the last 8 months on SEO here at BHW
Maybe try to do seo on your own. Write some good content, make some outreach to bloggers, buy some seo tools if you have $$. For $1500 you can get some seo tools + dedicated server for a year + low XX domains for small pbn.
Cons:
Such approach would cost you time and money
Pros:
You can rank your site and learn how to do proper link building, with such knowledge you can rank more sites for cheap, or help others rank sites for $$ and profit.

I have such approach personally, im trying to get all i need done in IM by myself, it cost time but knowledge = profits.

P.S. Maybe instead of trying to rank your site for X months try something different, social marketing for example - here you can see $$ fast, social dont take months to see results of your work so you can test faster and learn faster. Just my 2 cents.
 
your doing ok seo takes time ....

cost a lot aswell
 
Maybe you should go for a niche you can dominate with your available resources. $150 is enough to rank #1 for a low competition keyword and make your money back in 2-3 months.

One thing I did was buy keywords when I started which taught me what a nocompetitiion kw looks like.
 
@tunescool, as you're looking at all the rave reviews of the seller, I want you to keep two things in mind:
#1: Are the dates of the reviews visible AND recent? Sometimes sellers will hide the dates, but when showing graphs of analytics bars, they may slip up a few times and some of the dates will show 2012 or 2013 or something. The reason I bring this up, is because a lot has changed with SEO, over the course of just 1 year, let alone since way back then. The search engines are constantly evolving, so those reviews, while they may sound great, they do have a bit of an expiration date on them. Personally, I believe the moderators should enforce a marketplace rule that forces sellers to include dates on all the reviews they post, AND to only allow reviews that are up to 1 year old to be posted in the latest BST posts.

#2: The activity of the accounts that are leaving the reviews. Some sellers, I wholeheartedly believe, are using VCCs on newbie accounts to purchase their own services from themselves, so that they can leave great reviews on their own threads. They do this because if moderators were to call them out on it, they can say, "NOPE, this is a legitimate purchaser! I have proof!", and the moderators are left with little option to do anything about it. Often times, these are accounts that were created at the same time the thread went live, soon before the thread went live, and/or shortly after or during the lifespan of the thread. They may have posts in other threads asking for samples or they may even make some small purchases of really cheap services, but you can usually tell a fake account when you see one.

Both of the aforementioned tactics can easily cause you to waste money on a "SEO professional" that has no clue about what they're doing. They just want your money. I'd argue that the vast majority of BST sellers fall under this umbrella. It's why they do things like dodge simple questions in the thread and reply with, "PM Sent!", so nobody that knows better won't call them on their crap.

The bottom line is that I believe you already have your answer, but rather wish to have someone confirm what you're already thinking. You've been wasting your money. As @Minnehaha said, "$150 is enough to rank #1 for a low competition keyword", and a lot of times, you can even do it for free and without backlinks for that particular page. I'm not saying I do or don't believe in SILO, as I've had mixed results with doing it, but structuring your website in a way that allows crawlers to easily determine what your site is about and where, is often more than enough to push those longtails to the top of the results pages, BEFORE you start linkbuilding. I've ranked many keywords unintentionally, and I'm sure there are tons of others that do the same. I can pull up several of my websites in semrush and see myself ranking for keywords that I've never even seen before.

Bottom line: Stop throwing away money and really take the time to examine the structure of your website and the content therein. Often, you can give a boost to your rankings, simply by restructuring your website. Also, I'd encourage you to go ahead and install a plugin like this, so that you can redirect invalid URLs back to your homepage. It doesn't have to be that one, but search for any good 404 to 301/homepage plugin that works. These cost you nothing to do and can save/earn you money.
 
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Have you analysed the links you have got for $1500 so far? Like what type of links, where they are, what they look like, anchors, are the links even indexed on google etc. Otherwise you're just going to throw more money at it with a high chance of little results. If you can't do such analyse, you should find an SEO consultant who can. Having different backlink sources is good, you can mix up your backlink profile, but you should still be able to keep track of the links you get. From 8 months and $1.5k I'd expect more for 5k keywords than #20+. Sales threads open for years and with lots of pages doesn't mean the backlinks will rank your site.
 
Your problem is you are using "Sherlock hacks Google " of Sarkar service which is complete s*hit and your site is gonna be over optimized / spammed to death by low quality links.
I made the mistake to buy this service before and I was able to recover disavowing all the links, I also asked for a refund.
 
ive been buying from a seller here for a couple months. i looked at one his threads and reviews for over a half an hour. #1s all over the place, for like at least 50 million results in google and way higher monthly searches than i have. threads open since 2012 and 800 pages of sales

ive bought 8 packages for 3 urls, 2 or 3 packages for each url. i did have one movement of 20 positions, and other keywords moved around some but nothing significant. nothing past the 20th position

today hes telling me i should be buying 2 to 3 months of links. ive spent $1500 in the last 8 months on SEO here at BHW. you got a prob with my measely $1500, whatever, i aint got a job, kids, and a house

ive been taking care of things on my site, seo, keywords are good. i seriously probably aint got more than 5,000 monthly searches for any of my keywords, alot of them are just like around 100 from a site i bought here, wasnt my choice

should i keep buying from a source i know can easily take care of my pages by far but hasnt. go buy from someone else

You're telling me, that a seller who has sold you hundreds of dollars worth of links, and has tons of reviews with things shooting to #1, has not only not shown you the same results, but is now suggesting you buy more? And that you are considering it?

I literally just now ran your site through Ahrefs.
  • Your link quality is absolute garbage.
  • 93% of your links have a URL quality under 10.
  • You have no backlinks out of over 2000 that are over 20.
  • Over half your links are nofollow.
  • Most of your anchors are just the site URL, not actual keywords.
You're right, you aren't page one for a single thing. Not even your own exact match on your domain. But you're page two and three for quite a few things. Focus on that and add more content. And find some high quality links. Again, QUALITY NOT QUANTITY.

Buying up services just because some no-avatars left review after review shows that you either have no clue what you're doing, which makes me wonder why you think you can sell a fuckin' ebook on SEO, or that you don't give a shit about your site. Which is it?

PM me if you want the full Ahrefs report. Might be some good reading for you.

EDIT: Coincidentally, two of the six keywords you are page two for are from the short article that I wrote you. Maybe improve word count on that while still staying greenlit in Yoast or something?
 
You're telling me, that a seller who has sold you hundreds of dollars worth of links, and has tons of reviews with things shooting to #1, has not only not shown you the same results, but is now suggesting you buy more? And that you are considering it?

I literally just now ran your site through Ahrefs.
  • Your link quality is absolute garbage.
  • 93% of your links have a URL quality under 10.
  • You have no backlinks out of over 2000 that are over 20.
  • Over half your links are nofollow.
  • Most of your anchors are just the site URL, not actual keywords.
You're right, you aren't page one for a single thing. Not even your own exact match on your domain. But you're page two and three for quite a few things. Focus on that and add more content. And find some high quality links. Again, QUALITY NOT QUANTITY.

Buying up services just because some no-avatars left review after review shows that you either have no clue what you're doing, which makes me wonder why you think you can sell a fuckin' ebook on SEO, or that you don't give a shit about your site. Which is it?

PM me if you want the full Ahrefs report. Might be some good reading for you.

EDIT: Coincidentally, two of the six keywords you are page two for are from the short article that I wrote you. Maybe improve word count on that while still staying greenlit in Yoast or something?
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What @Sherb said, sounds harsh, but it's very true. I'd encourage you to take him up on the very kind offer to send you the full Ahrefs report. Read it. Study it. And get ready to utilize the Disavow Tool, from Google. You're going to need it. Good luck and don't give up. Often, the lessons we learn in IM, have been costly. I know I've been through the ringer and back!
 
You really need to do some actual work instead of just throwing money at this.

You've got a prebuilt site, that you are using SEO packages to rank... it isn't going to happen
 
should i keep buying from a source i know can easily take care of my pages by far but hasnt. go buy from someone else
You should read this thread, I think it might help you. Quote from that thread: "Buy links. My god. Buy links. Don't be idiot about it. Don't buy some service that is going to put you on a bunch of private blog networks. Buy links from reputable websites. Do the research. Do the manual outreach. It's worth it."

The idea is to buy links directly from high authority websites, you don't need someone else to do it. Forget about cheap links, it's better to have just one link from good website worth $1000 than one hundred from some crappy websites.
 
Cool. Sounds like my past. Though I wasted that sum on 5 different sellers crappy rotting PBNs .

I get better rankings from a fiver post ..
 
add lots of quality articles. write, write, write, how many words do you have? how much are you raking in ?
 
for 1500 usd he'd have brilant pbn network and what not

Yes - this is how I’d spend it. I’d rather have a several PBNs with CNN/wiki/huffpo links and then use a couple hundred on cheap diversity packages... that’s more than enough for medium keywords

Also OP - just because a seller has 800 pages doesn’t mean it’s the greatest. If anything it likely means all his/her networks have very high OBLs and should only be used as tier 2.
 
Bro does some manual Work. And Brainstorm your website with following Questions?
1) Is this site have enough talent to rank on an even first page?
2) Is this site have enough content to entertain its users?
3) Did you analyze your links to know who is performing better and who is not?
4) Is your service cheap enough to satisfy $1500 budget?

If you have high CPC service you need to spend more money

hope you get your answers.
 
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