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All the money making "methods" are bullshit

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by bryce, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. bryce

    bryce Newbie

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    So I'm starting to realize that a lot of the money making methods that are promoted or posted about a lot are really bullshit and a waste of time to chase. Shit like youtube promoting, MOST facebook promoting, i dont know there are a lot more, most craigslist stuff.

    I mean, every single e book I've read has all these same methods in it, and people, its pretty obvious that if they were really that good, they wouldnt be giving it away. So I'm starting to realize that I need to figure out how to do this shit completely on my own and come up with ways to make money. that seems like the best way.

    yeah im still kinda 'noob' i guess. i havent made a single dollar in the online world, but ive been around this stuff for a while and i have made attempts. i made attempts in youtube, about to give facebook a try, but im just starting to realize that there is nothing really out there or on this forum that will really tell u how to make money because the good stuff wont be on here.

    the only good thing ive read was on my cpa network in the chat that seems promising, but who knows, everything i read now i feel like its bullshit. like i just read this free e book that links to this dudes site, and he uses the exact tactics in his ebook to make money off you. its that guy with the 2010 finale ebook talking about building trust with your clients, go to his blog, and see he's promoting bullshit offers to 'make money'.

    i dont know, this is a rant, and i know people are gonna say, ur just not doing it right or whatever, but you cant lie that these methods are over saturated and its really difficult to make a lot of money from it and that the best 'methods' are the ones arent talked about here at all. this website is a good resource i think for finding what you need, but methods of making money i dont think are that good. we gotta think of this stuff on our own.

    if anyone wants to brainstorm in ways to make money online, feel free to send me an AIM at scibergangster. peace.
     
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  2. TermsB

    TermsB Senior Member

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    You need to use the forum to learn. So when you look at those methods you can think to yourself, "You know I bet that would work good if I did this." You need to be unique, you need to twist the methods to make them work for you. Every single one of those methods you posted above money can still be made on. It might not be for you, so move on, try out something new.

    The important part is keep learning, you don't write a novel when you're learning how to write your first sentence.
     
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  3. Sanitarium

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    What would make you think otherwise?

    I read somewhere that people don't appreciate free, so it's no wonder people will sell junk so that when you rant at least they got your cash so they can bear listening to it.

    Good luck.
     
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  4. Grunge

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    Try.. Bud, I think it's up to us to make it happen.. There is no such thing as "try" in my humble opinion.. Simple example would be that you could either stand up or sit on a chair.. There is no such thing as trying to sit on the chair because that would just be too tiring..

    I am a "noob" too but I learnt everything from scratch and made it happen for myself and to be honest, most of my money is made off Direct Marketing such as YouTube.

    And guess what, I read them from E-Books, Training Videos and a Mastermind Group that I belong to.


    To be honest, I think most of us miss out the point of why these Methods are being shared in the first place.. Some of the Methods are shared because people here wanna help each other out.. To me, when I look at these Methods, they are here to get my Creative Juices flowing.. Most people here will tell you that this is their Idea, it works, BUT what YOU need to do is to work and twist it to a point where it WORKS for you.. I read Methods of YouTube and twist them to work for me.. I believe this is something that most people are doing as well..

    Bottom line is that all of these things are to get us started and we put in our effort, leverage on our Innovation and Creativity and make it happen for ourselves.. I apologize if I sounded offensive or insulting.. I am just giving me two cents worth because I was in the same position that you are in several months ago..

    The people here are here to help.. When I needed advice or solutions, I come on here and ask and 99.9% of the time, I get my questions answered.. This is the perfect Forum to be in my humble opinion..
     
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  5. dante

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    dude you can't just go around like that and say that methods people use and have used are bullshit... I mean not everyone is destined to get rich here... and btw you can't just go copy a method the exact way the guy told you and expect results... add your own twist to them and you'll see money rolling in
     
  6. CMS2009

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    let me guess, you've tried about 5 methods on here, but you've tried them once, and it didnt get a good response, so rather than sit and think for 20 mins on how to improve it, you binned it, and done the same again

    pick ANY (well pretty much) method from the money making forum, and work at it day after day after day until you are gettting around $20 a day from it. Then get as much of it automated as you can. Then move on to another one, and work at it until you've had the same result

    you can't say methods are bullshit until you've exhausted all efforts at making them work
     
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  7. DrJekyll

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    Well if you are doing things word for word, shit probably will not work for you ever.

    when you look at one of these examples, you need to be able to drop a different product into it, or a different traffic source or both.

    If you can not do that, you shall not succeed.
     
  8. SparkyBlue

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    ur just not doing it right or whatever
     
  9. Fireboltgirl

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    1) When you feel like quitting you're just going through a barrier that will eliminate most of your competition

    2) Based on volume alone there is no way you have read all the stuff on BHW. There is more than enough to make $$$ here (even with white hat). I conclude that you are overwhelmed, not under informed.

    3) Feeling like it is all bullshit doesn't make it so. The devil is in the detail that is missing. You have to be thinking .....what aren't they telling me? What have I seen elsewhere that would improve this technique? It takes time to accumulate the information either with bookmarks (don't recommend), copy and paste into folders, or use of mind map sites like evernote and bubble.

    Brainstorming is likely to add to the confusion/exacerbate the negitivity you already feel UNLESS you are guided by someone more experienced who will tollerate your whining without compensation for doing so - IMO unlikely.

    Suggest DIY and don't look for handholding.

    Good luck.
     
  10. TermsB

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    Also you've only been here 2 weeks. Internet marketing isn't the get rich quick thing you might think it is. You have to put in the work to get it to that level. If you're throwing in the towel 2 weeks in this probably isn't the career choice for you. How many 8 hour days have you even put in trying to make the methods work?
     
  11. zhwriter

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    It's not about the method because all methods follow one system. And that system is a business system that can be summed up loosely in one "equation,"


    Niche (find product/service and market to match) + traffic (free and/or paid with SEO/backlinks) + conversions = money

    or

    Product/Service + Traffic + Conversions = Profit

    Every method is just a variation of the equation above. Now, there are thousands of different approaches, ranging from building mini sites to promote other products (affiliate marketing), adsense sites, authority sites, CPA marketing, to selling your own product and doing joint ventures. Even e-whoring and twitter marketing follows this process.

    Think about an offline business. It's still the same equation. You need to sell a product or service, be it hard products, digital/electronics, or leads, then convert by acquiring customers (traffic). They buy and you make money.

    You're trying to find a compelling offer, then market it, then sell it, and finally convert that offer to the buyer(s). That's basically what making money or business is all about. And each part of this process isn't easy at all.

    The same stuff works but you have to implement and deliver using your own skills and twists at times. Thinking outside the box works.

    When you brainstorm, always remember this process.

    Every method you see is the same business system.
     
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  12. r.s.mahanti

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    every method works. just twist it a little for yourself.
    i also had same experience as yours. i m promoting sharecash.
    earlier i used to follow a method as described in bhw. i was earning hardly a $ or two in a day.
    then i just twisted it and applied my own method and now my avg is almost $20 a day. see the soul of the method is same. u hv to make people download.
    how you do that it depends on you.

    think little differently , the money will start to flow.
    dont lose hope so soon.
    best of luck.
     
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  13. xhizor99

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    you always gota put your own twists here and there. That's how it works best for me.
     
  14. WizGizmo

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    I have personally found that the synergistic (combined) effect of being aware of and incorporating various money making and traffic generating ideas has allowed me to come up with my own approach. Still, the basic stuff is really the bottom line:

    - Niche Research
    - Keyword Research
    - Presell and Copywriting Skills
    - Landing Page and Graphic Design
    - Traffic Generation/Promotion
    - Tracking Your Campaign
    - Outsourcing to Scale Up if a Campaign is Beginning To Produce Good Results.
    - Keeping Aware of New Techniques and Constant Changes In IM
     
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  15. amsterdamned

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    Well as one noob to another, indeed as written above it takes time and following through. There is definately money to be made I have found out!
    Even though some WSO's may or may not work there is PLENTY of solid info here on the forum for free.
    Good luck.
     
  16. jackccl

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    YouTube still works I did a quick experiment with 5 quick videos, one was a picture slide show made by me rest were just downloaded from other sites, and got 80 bucks within 1 month. That's pretty good considering all I did was make that one vid and upload it with the rest which took me under 1 hour. On and they are still getting me 10-20 bucks a month without me doing anything.

    I didn't use some dumb guide because if it's in a book, chances are too many people read it and are doing it. Also imo don't go for methods like that because you get paid a bit for your work but once you stop doing stuff your earnings pretty much disappear. Go for things that can grow.

    Put your own spin on things and it will work. Listen to DrJekyll.. Hes a doctor after all :p
     
  17. TheInternetHustler

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    Youtube promoting methods are bullshit? Hahaha, just because people arent holding your hand through the process doesnt mean there isnt plenty of money to be made. You have to make your own methods, use other peoples ideas to help you form your own.. Dont rely on others, you have to learn how to help yourself.
     
  18. blackhatcpa

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    My 2 cents.. NOBODY is selling any methods that are super profitable and automated. People are out for themselves and thats it. If it works super easy, they aren't selling it trust me. They sell recycled, saturated, garbage.
     
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    You never Tried
    Dont tell me you tried and you failed
     
  20. goins

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    dude these methods on here do work i still bring in a automated income from my old youtube videos that i uploaded 2 years ago. most of the methods here are to give you an idea and to add your own TWIST that where the money is you have to be creative and add your own ideas to it and make it your very own method to bring in income they cant just spoon feed you exactly what you need to do.
     
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