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All sites deindexed - Pure Spam - Black Hat Niches

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mihaiandrei, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. mihaiandrei

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    I didn't have many websites, but they were generating enough money to keep me going while I am studying abroad. Last week on Saturday my multi-niche website got deindexed from google. I was ok with that because I still had money generated from the single niche domains. I was about to take action upon the main site in the near future. The sites are promoting black hat niches using cpa offers.

    Yesterday, I noticed a big decrease in visit stats on the cpa network I am using. When I check, I realize that my other websites are deindexed. Only one out of six is still up. And this is on the same host(as an addon domain) where one of the other website is deindexed.

    What is really troubling me is that all of the websites were on different hosts, 4 hosts for 6 websites and submitted on different google webmasters tools accounts. The backlink profile is different as well from one another. 3 of my websites have backlinks from a PBN, 2 of them are deindexed. The only one still standing has links from the same PBN. So I assume it is not because of the PBN. The PBN's are all up and healthy.

    One of the similarities between the websites from what I noticed, they all have a low Trust Flow and decent/high Citation Flow. Something like a 3 TF and 34 CF. Or 2 TF and 18 CF. Another one has 7 TF and 24 CF.

    1. Is it possible to be related to this discrepancy in metrics the reason for the mass deindexing ?

    Another similarity is that I stopped creating backlinks on all websites in the same time, like 5 months ago. And I have lost many of the backlinks based on majestic stats. I also used GSA for creating backlinks apart from the PBN's and manually created WEB 2.0, but I used it with common sense, no churn and burn.

    2. Could my stoppage in creating backlinks be a reason for deindexing ? Or the fact that I used GSA ?

    Other thing that I have noticed is that my articles posted on the deindexed websites are copied on pasted on other websites. Word by word on many websites, 5 to 15 websites. The articles are manually written by myself months or even years ago.

    3. Does google really know that I was the first that posted the articles? Am I being deindexed for duplicate content ?

    The message in google webmasters tools under manual actions is:
    "Pages on this site appear to use aggressive spam techniques such as automatically generated gibberish, cloaking, scraping content from other websites, and/or repeated or egregious violations of Google's Webmaster Guidelines"
     
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    Where were they registered, different registrars? Private whois or public?
     
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    Sucks to be you right now. I see 3 possible reasons for you problems:

    1.) The usage o Gsa the TF and CF metrics shows a spammy link profile
    2.) A footprint large enough for G to sniff all ur websites( registering hosts accounts with the same email, same theme, only wp pbn, etc)
    3.) Competitors reports to G spam team.
     
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    All godaddy. The first one that got deindexed is the private one.

    1.) MBS6wNT.jpg This is about how the main stats look on all websites at the moment. Not so many live links and a big number of links lost. Because I was afraid to use GSA at some point.

    2.) I always tried to be careful regarding footprints to prevent the nightmare from happening. Could it be something as little same email for hosting accounts ? I changed recently the hosting of one website and used different email from the other ones... and still got deindexed... I only have 5 PBN's and they all use wordpress. I used different themes on all websites/PBN's. And I also tried to diversify plugins, especially for PBN's. PBN's are not submitted to GWT. But anyway, the only site that is still live has links from PBN so I of disapprove the idea it is because of PBN's.
    3.) This is what it looks like to me at the moment. Someone that is making a living from reporting websites.

    Pretty much the websites have different backlink profile. Some have PBN's some don't, some have WEB 2.0, others have both. And I don't have same WEB 2.0 for more niches. 1 set of WEB 2.0 for one niche/website.

    The only change I made to the website was to update the plugins every now and then and more recently I installed some free security plugins.
     
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    No, an email for hosting accounts cant be used as a footprint, unless you are hosting them with Google. No one can see that.

    Someone most likely reported you. You're in a blackhat niche, no surprise someone would report you to get to the top.
     
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  7. mihaiandrei

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    I assume it is best to start over ? Are there any chances to get them indexed again if I write new articles and submit a reconsideration request to google?
     
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    The penalty has nothing to do with the backlink profile.

     
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    All the domains had WHOIS privacy?
    Were you changing your IP/Clearing cookies when logging in from one Webmaster a/c to another?
     
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    usually all the blackhat websites are getting deindexed by google i lost my 2 sites and many of my friends promoting game hacks/generators are getting deindexed so 100% blackhat is the reason
     
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  11. redarrow

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    Duplicate content that it.
    Content is king , google has matched the same articles and de indexed domains

    that it full stop .

    any duplicate written articles anywere get the website flagged.

    also as you no google hates affilcate websites.

    Yoy done everthink right except this...

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    Other thing that I have noticed is that my articles posted on the deindexed websites are copied on pasted on other websites. Word by word on many websites, 5 to 15 websites

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    Only my opionion
     
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  12. mihaiandrei

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    Only one domain has WHOIS Privacy.
    I was usually being cautious about leaving footprints. I was randomly changing the IP via VPN and always clearing cookies.

    Why aren't them websites getting deindexed as well ? Or this will eventually happen ? My assumption is that the guys copied my website and afterwards they reported it to google.
     
  13. umerjutt00

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    and the others had same WHOIS contact info? If yes, then that's your problem.
     
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    Usually all, ha? Only you got deindexed and your friend and that's all of them? I have 4 sites, blackhat niches, blackhat SEO, still going strong on #1 for 18 months. You fellas just need to learn from your mistakes and stop doing the same thing over and over again.
     
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    I dont think you can - start over, point the links to the new domain and you'll get back on track.
     
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    I think this is very important. Some people are not believing that hack/game cheat/dodgy survey sites are being whacked, because perhaps it hasnt happened to them or anyone they know.

    Several people I know who had "cheap and nasty" looking game hack ppd sites have been whacked with the pure spam penalty.

    Its like Matt Cutts says, if it looks deceptive and crappy, they will whack it. It would be worth figuring out how they put those sites in the whack-a-mole que, other than probably people/competition reporting them.
     
  17. NoGameNoLife

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    Looks like the attack from competitors for me that's why I mostly use Greyhat less popular niches,learned that from the good old Youtube times
     
  18. mackay22

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    Good point. I think it is the lack of effort with quick sites that dont even look like real sites, and recently I do think that google may be targetting the hack/cheat site niche a bit more. I know that google are a bit like the Inland Revenue, in that they sting everyone but they go through cycles of targetting "blocks" or niches or whatever you my call them.
     
  19. mihaiandrei

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    I actually had the same godaddy profile on all of them, I will try to diversify the registrars next time with various accounts with different contact info.

    Can I point the links from the previous PBN's and WEB 2.0's to the new domain on the same niche? Wouldn't this be a footprint and eventually get deindexed again ?

    EDIT: Would it be ok to use the previous social accounts such as facebook and twitter(because they are old) to point links from them to the new domain/domains ?
     
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  20. PixelMathis

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    as you said you had no privacy lock, this pretty much explains it all. Getting deindexed is a part of pure spam SEO. It was bound to happen sooner rather than later. So accept it and move on and start creating more sites.