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All Sellers be aware of "The SEO" - Steals money & time

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Final Infinity, Nov 9, 2014.

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  1. Final Infinity

    Final Infinity Junior Member

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    I am making this thread with Big Buddys permission. I am just wanting to let all BHW sellers to be aware of The SEO. He will steal your money and time.

    What happened?

    Over a month ago he took a review copy from us here. He then proceeded to create the account but did not add any domains and did not deliver a review. Every account, whether it has domains added or not costs us money as we have to reserve the space on the IPs (we limit every IP to 20-50 domains).

    I wrote him a total of 4 PMs of which he ignored 3 and answered one of them saying "Hey bro, I was busy with my offline projects which cause delay, will do my review within next 2 days." which he obviously did not do.

    Giving him a review copy was nothing but a waste of time and money. I highly recommend to all sellers to stay away from ever giving him a review copy.

    Before anyone says that he might have some good reason for behaving like this: I did ask him if he had any reason for it and he ignored that pm as well.

    I also would like to take this opportunity to say a few words to any other VIPs that take review copies and not deliver them. When you take a review copy and don't actually do the review you are taking the chance away from other people who might actually be interested in the service. It's not only unfair to the seller but also to those people who would have liked to actually do the review. Doing such a thing is nothing more or less than being a complete selfish asshole.
     
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  2. somedevil

    somedevil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I have lost count of the number of times this has happened to me. Someone will PM me asking for a review copy nicely. Once they get the article, they forget all about it and refuse to even reply to a PM. It stinks.
     
  3. IAmNotLegend

    IAmNotLegend Regular Member

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    +1 on this. Recently had a review copy give-away, and out of the 10 review copies given out, I received a response from 8 of the members (It's been 2 weeks). First I would PM then, and would receive a reply that they will soon give a review, but no response even after 2 weeks.

    Luckily for me all those 8 guys who responded gave a real detailed review even though it was just a 500 word article.

    Only thing you can do is to either expose them or add them to your backlist. I chose the later option!

    On the other note, this thread could have been posted in the Jr. VIP section, since review copies are only offered to Jr. VIPs and higher ranked members, and regular members don't give review copies since they don't have a BST.
     
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  4. Final Infinity

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    It seems like this is quite a widespread problem. It would be nice to see moderators take an active stance against this kind of thing something like giving out infractions.

    We're lucky because we are getting more and more reviews coming in from actual customers but it can't be that people take review copies and then ignore the seller. It's simply unethical.

     
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  5. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It's a fair point. I think sometimes when you see "review copy" it's easy to jump in without thinking.

    But people should remember it's not for free, you are agreeing to give your time instead of your money.
     
  6. RuthSam

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    And the exact same things are going on opposite, seller promise to deliver some certain service and take the money, buyer spend's both money and time on it and at the end of the day the seller don't deliver what is promised, this happens 9 our of 10 times someone buys something at BHW!!

    Get over it and move forward.. you can find countless threads here on BHW where buyers complain about the MOD's approving service which shouldn't be here.

    Honestly, I have taken at least 3 review copies and what they delivered was just poor and plain shit.. so what do you want me to post.. that this is a shitty service or they are a fraud? or do you rather want that we stay out of the thread so you can do your sales??
     
  7. Final Infinity

    Final Infinity Junior Member

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    Actually, this is exactly what I would want you to post. Personally I would not offer a service that doesn't 100% hold what it promises, but if you find some fault or think that it does not hold what it promises I would want to know. Without that input I would not know what to fix.

    I also would want to read that someone elses service is shitty because it would warn me and tell me not to buy it.
     
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  8. IAmNotLegend

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    A shitty service is a seller's problem. You are talking about scams in general. And if you find that the service you received was not up to the level, you can PM the seller about the problems, and help him improve the service.

    You are in general provoking these guys - We did it! And we will do it again!

    And if something is wrong, accept it. A seller in certain cases have to work for 2-3 hours just to writer an article (in my case), you cannot simply reject to review just because you are too high of a level for that article.
     
  9. Repulsor

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    Some people are just here to post shit like " I am in","I would love a review copy" to almost all review copy offering threads.
    Myself, I only take up review copies only if its something I am looking for.There is no problem taking review copies, but being on every review copy threads posting the same shit is so crappy.
     
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    Yes, I totally Agree under normal circumstances!.. so next issue. Doing so, they start threatened with negative seo and I don't know what else the come up with!!.. they behave like small kids here!

    There is so much BS going on here from both sellers and buyers (I could list countless examples of this) that sometimes I believe this is all just about to make fast money no one really cares about anyone here:bootyshak money talks bullshit walks!
     
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    That would make the other buyers get shitty services. Thats not cool, but I can understand what you mean.
     
  12. BassTrackerBoats

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    That sort of thing NEEDS to be reported to a Mod. Absolutely NEEDS to be so that the seller that is doing that is weeded out and the quality of what is offered is kept up here on BHW.


    • Screen grab and save the threat if done outside of BHW.
    • Report the threat using the report button if done inside of BHW (PMs etc).
    • Send all documentation to a Mod.

    To me, that is important in keeping our little corner of the world (BHW in this instance) clean.
     
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  13. Final Infinity

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    I absolutely agree. If any seller threatens you with negative SEO or in any other way he needs to be banned immediately. Something like that is totally unacceptable behaviour!
     
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    This makes me feel shitty! To anyone who I have forgotten to leave a review for, I sincerely apologise.
     
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    What do you guys expect when you open a thread saying help yourself to a review ? You might as well ask freeloaders to form a line.

    Invest a bit of time and select people that you think have the credentials and inteligence to accurately review your product then approach them and offer them a review.
     
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  16. Final Infinity

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    In a way you are right. We limited the review to VIPs which in itself obviously wasn't enough. That said, take a look at The SEO's profile and how much reputation he has. So filtering by reputation would not have been enough either. Next time we will give reviews, if ever, we'll check more carefully and search for people who have given reviews before and have some knowledge about the topic.
     
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    We will need to justify ourselves.
     
  18. Final Infinity

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    What kind of justification could there ever be for threatening somebody with neg. SEO?
     
  19. Artyy

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    It should be common decency to at least put 2 minutes of work into writing a review for something you got for totally free...

    Although, the problem can easily be solved by (coming from a Newbie) only selecting professional looking (for e.a.) Regular+ members (professional in a way that they write more than "review copy plis").
     
  20. Final Infinity

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    Again, take a look at The SEO's profile and tell me where he doesn't look professional (in the way you describe it). He's got over 2.6k posts which aren't "review copy plis". If it was that easy to pick somebody for a review copy then we wouldn't need this thread.
     
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