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Aged Domain, 301 Redirect, BHSeo Need Help

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by codBq, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. codBq

    codBq Registered Member

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    Hey blackhatters i need all kind of advices,
    Now I'll gonna make a big company's site SEO. They have got 4 year old domain and I have every control of domain and site. While doing seo (BH), they don't want to left footprints (spams huge backlinks etc.) I thinked i can do this site's seo in this way

    1 - Build a huge linkwheel and link pyramid to another aged domain (Domain B)
    2 - Build a simple linkwheel and link pyramid to main domain (Domain A)
    3 - Blast with SB and bookmarking to (Domain B)
    4 - Article marketing basic seo (Domain B)
    5 - After Domain B has huge of backlinks; 301 Redirect Domain B to A

    Q1 - Is it works?
    Q2 - All linkwheels etc. backlinks transfer after 301 Redirect
    Q3 - How many footprints I left?

    I'm open the every kind of advice. I'm preparing the site now. After Christmas I'm going to start SEO and Site is going to rank non-english keywords

    Thanks in advance

    :fear:
     
  2. Extropy

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    Q1 - Yes, your 301 will work.
    Q2 - Yes, the majority of your link juice will pass through
    Q3 - They'll be able to tell in analytics where the links are coming from. They added in the ability to see where the 301s are coming from a week or two ago.


    When you do the 301 you may force it to dance because you are giving lots of links to the main site. Happens all the time to me.
     
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  3. codBq

    codBq Registered Member

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    Firstly very thanks for your answers. I had never done 301 redirect before so i'm new at this.
    It's not important company know where links come from or etc. I am only care competitors know or not know the promoting method. Some questions come in mind now.

    Q4 - Do I need build a web site to Domain B or only backlinks enoung for domain or can I promote Domain B in different niche ? (Exactly building a simple site is useful for trust rank)
    Q5 - How old is Domain B needed?

    Thanks again your answers. Also thanks for great system Linklicious.me. I hope your system will be more succesfull in future.
     
  4. Extropy

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    The 301s will transfer the links/link juice to the new domain. So if all your inbound links to Domain B are for 'blue cars', then when your redirect Domain A will show up for blu cars. You'll get secondary benefits for PR transfer, but for keyword ranking it'll be whatever keywords Domain B ranks with.

    Q5 - It can be any age.

    You can do 301s with pages, subdomains, or domains. I've had success with the first two and never tried the domain level (but I see no reason it wouldn't work).


    And thanks for the shout on Linklicous. :)
     
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  5. codBq

    codBq Registered Member

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    Ok here is what I understand;

    Domain A will be ranking for "apple juice"
    Domain B can be any content, any keyword like "bluray"

    While link building for the Domain B for example commenting blogs Anchor Text will be "apple juice"

    Then when i redirect to Domain A. It will be ranking for "apple juice" Because all inbound links points "apple juice".

    Do I understand right ? :)

    Okey I know the PR transfers new domain. But I'm curiuos about this :)
    Q6 - What if I build a huge link network. I mean multiple 301's. Such as Domain C,
    Domain D, Domain E redirect to Domain A.
    What is exact PR :). Yes I know this question is very specific :) Just curious.

    Anyway thanks again. I haven't started site desing yet. I'm just brainstorming about link diagram firstly I have to desing link diagram. After christmas I'll be very busy I predict. I should search for aged domain. Now a question again

    Q7 - Any source for found an aged domain ? How can I find good aged domain?

    Thanks in thanks in advance
     
  6. Extropy

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    Yes, you understand it right. Your target domain gets the benefit of all link building/text on the other domains.

    The link juice (sorta equivalent to PR) gets largely transferred to the target domain. If you have multiple domains, you'll multiply the effect. I've danced a site for months by redirecting too many (9) domains to a new site.

    Aged domains are everywhere - godaddy, flippa, here... I don't know of a "best" place for them.

    Have fun with it!
     
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    Extropy is right on.

    @codBq - keep asking your questions in this thread because it's on target for your own project. But you can also read a lot more discussion on this topic in the thread 301 redirects on Old domains and Link Juice. If you scroll down to around post 15 in that thread you'll find a lot of links to other threads on the topic as well as links to external sources.

    Keep asking your questions in this thread to get specific answers to your questions. Pay attention to the answers Extropy gave you, he seems to have a good handle on how 301s work.
     
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  8. codBq

    codBq Registered Member

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    @Extropy thanks for advices and help now thats all my questions

    @GreyWolf thanks for to you, I keep in mind your advices. Yea the project is very important for me it's the biggest SEO exam for me :)