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[Affiliate Store] Anything Like This Exist for Non-Adult?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by phpbuilt, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. phpbuilt

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    One of my better ways of making money online is sex toy sales. I use http://myfreewebsite.com, run by CNV.com. (Its almost the same thing as sextoyclub.com, only you're not the middleman on the sales, they handle everything).

    Here is what I like about it ...

    25% commission on products (most everything)
    20% commission on dvd's
    100k+ products available
    Reliable - they've paid me like clockwork over the last 3 years
    They give you the ability to own the website you link to for affiliate commissions. Meaning ... I'm not linking to their store, that someone 2 weeks from now will go back to directly to reorder. 2 weeks from now when they reorder, they're coming back to my store, because I own the domain.

    Here is what I don't like about it ...

    I'm feeling held back by the difficulty of getting backlinks to adult related sites. I'd love to see how my current system would fare with blasts from private blog networks, BMR, etc. ... but I can't.

    So what I'm wondering is, does anything exist out there like this, only for non-adult products?

    It's really tough to swallow amazon's crappy percent profits compared to the 25% commission of sex toys, plus I don't get to keep the customers (2 weeks from now they will probably go direct to amazon).

    I just want to know of any system out there that gives me around 20 to 25% commission on product sales that has a wide variety of products for sale, that represents a variety of niches, is reliable and lets you map your domain to their system so you're actually promoting your own domain instead of theirs. Anything else like that available out there?
     
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    http://2.storestacker.com/

    If you post all your shit on your site through something like that, they wouldn't even have to know that it's coming from amazon, ebay, overstock, etc.

    I dunno, they have a $1 trial. Give it a whirl. If it blows, you lost a dollar.
     
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    Thanks ... I'm still stuck on finding anything with decent commissions though. I guess I could focus on amazon if I felt like settling for 4% to 7.5% commission or whatever it is they offer.

    They'd know it was from amazon, ebay etc. by the time they were checking out with this storestacker looks like.

    Anyone out there know decent products for sale with a 20% or more affiliate commission? Preferably in the $50 to $150 per item range?
     
  4. ntnsllc

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    Try Zappos' affiliate program. 12% I think, and they have some pretty expensive stuff there. Lots of products, and great customer service. Also, the cookie is more persistent than the Amazon 24 hour cookie I believe.
     
  5. jeancarlin

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    It is tough to find those 20%+ comm rates for hard goods. Amazon is not that bad because the conversion rates are fairly high which can make up for the difference. For the last 3 months (Dec, Jan, Feb) my account is running at 6.2%, 4% and 6.0% for conversion rates. People trust Amazon.

    It is very easy to hit 6% commissions in most months. And a trick that most people forget about is that the percentage is based on # of transactions. So, one could promote cheap or common household goods like food to bump your commission level.

    If I did the math properly going from 20% comm to 6% comm means you need to sell items that are roughly 3.5 times the price to equal the same income. I checked those 'toy stores' and it seems like the avg item is $50 or less. Which means if you sold something $175 and up you would earn the same amount. And in any given category there are tons of items for that price. As an example, there are almost 1,800 womens coats priced at $175 and above.

    And the 24 hour cookie can be circumvented too if the shopper places the product in their shopping cart. There is also an ecommerce platform for Amazon named Fresh Store Builder that will drop items into a custom shopping cart on your site. When the user clicks "Checkout" the cart is transfered to Amazon. If the user logs in to Amazon, the Amazon cart inherits the items and you now have a 90 day cookie. That's a lot better.

    What I don't like about it is that they have not abstracted the theme from the functional code so it takes someone with a PhD degree in PHP coding to customize the thing. There are only 4 templates and 2 are ugly. It could be a lot better but that is an option. The last item is that the code is not a wordpress plugin so if you wanted a blog, you would need to install it in a subfolder and connect the two via hard links.

    Currently I am struggling with the decision to either build product reviews on web 2.0 sites (parasite style) and rank them OR to build an ecommerce site with this store builder and try to rank it. I think with a little SEO such a store could rank.

    With Panda, my adsense has fallen but my Amazon promotions have so far replaced that lost income. I also had been promoting another set of hard good with 15% commission from CJ but the top 5 sites are now ecommerce stores (a few Chinese clones and the original merchant I was promoting and finally Amazon).

    JC.